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Jan

Mountain climber

Okinawa, Japan

Oct 14, 2009 - 02:52pm PT

Go-

Thanks for all the illustrations. I understand the question now but it's 4 am and I need some sleep.
I'll give it another try in the morning.

jstan-

Thanks for a good laugh just before I called it quits for the night.

Brian Hench

Trad climber

Anaheim, CA

Oct 14, 2009 - 02:58pm PT

But GoClimb, where did that original plant that produced the very first seed come from?

It evolved from a plant that produced a spore.

Gobee

Trad climber

Los Angeles

Oct 14, 2009 - 03:22pm PT

Body Snatchers, no doubt?

Peter Haan

Trad climber

San Francisco, CA

Oct 14, 2009 - 03:23pm PT

THE WERNERS: LUGWRENCH CHRISTIANS PREPARE TO WALK ON WATER

WandaFuca

Social climber

From the gettin' place

Oct 14, 2009 - 03:30pm PT

Where did THAT original plant come from then?

You could research plant evolution, but yours isn't an honest question; you don't really want our answers, do you, since you already KNOW the answer.

GOclimb

Trad climber

Boston, MA

Oct 14, 2009 - 03:34pm PT

Cragman queried:

"It evolved from a plant which produced a spore."

Where did THAT original plant come from then?

Exactly! That's exactly the point! Trace back millions of generations in plants, and is it any surprise that it doesn't look just like the plant who's seed fell in the river, or that it's pollen wouldn't be able to fertilize the modern plant's flower?

That, right there, is speciation (if that's a word) at work.

GO

WandaFuca

Social climber

From the gettin' place

Oct 14, 2009 - 03:34pm PT

You are right for once. But I do have questions.

Where did YOUR original god come from?

WandaFuca

Social climber

From the gettin' place

Oct 14, 2009 - 03:43pm PT

So I just need to disregard my skeptical, questioning nature, desire for evidence and my sense of probability.

Then if I have faith and just believe, I will know the truth?

Gobee

Trad climber

Los Angeles

Oct 14, 2009 - 03:45pm PT

What came first the chicken or the egg?

GOclimb

Trad climber

Boston, MA

Oct 14, 2009 - 04:02pm PT

Not sure I understand the punchline. Did you mean to type "bought"? You typed "brought".

GO

jstan

climber

Oct 14, 2009 - 04:04pm PT

"Children don't like it when you tug on their security blankets.

Nothing of the sort.

It is just that when a tired and bitter old man can't characterize another person's life changing events any better than how he did and then goes on to defend it then you know the character of who you are dealing with.

Sad and very disappointing.

Skip"

I could not think of a better way to characterize this possible relationship to religion. I had never seen it used before. So I am fully responsible for that verbiage.

To start with if I were tired why would I be doing all of this typing. And as far as saying bitter things I think there are other better candidates here.

But let's once more pull back from irrelevancies and deal with the issue. Do you have a comment as to whether arbitrarily defined words can be usefully used in a discussion between two people?

I'll give you other examples.

I am a republican.

Do you learn anything from that statement?

I am a socialist.

Same question.

Discussions using the words christian, republican,socialist are foredoomed to go on forever and lead to nothing, if for no other reason, because we don't know what we are discussing.

The data supporting this are in the paper every morning.

Now as to Lynnie.
You have concluded I have wronged her. You feel that way because you think I am denying her something she needs for solace. You misjudge her. She is too strong to need any solace. How so?

Dan was an immensely strong man. He devoted himself to Lynnie up to the day he died. Would such a person do this with anything other than a strong woman?

I know whereof I speak. Lynnie and I nearly got into fisticuffs at Facelift. She is tough as nails.

Really. Ask yourself that question.

What should she do? Just what she is doing.

Stand tall among the rubble of what was once her life and say, "Dan is not gone. I am still here to give others all the things he taught me.

It was no midget who insisted on gathering us all together to honor John Bachar.

Lynnie doesn't keep mentioning Jesus because she needs him.

Jesus needs her.

MH2

climber

Oct 14, 2009 - 04:14pm PT

Gobee again:

What came first the chicken or the egg?

Excellent sense of humor in this context, sir.

If you are joking, that is.

the Fet

climber

Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La

Oct 14, 2009 - 04:18pm PT

What came first the chicken or the egg?

My teachers used to get mad at me for answering these questions with "no answers."

The egg. The chicken evolved from an earlier egg laying bird.

If a tree falls in the forest with no one around does it make a sound?

If you define sound as a being experiencing sound waves as an sensation in their brain, then no.

If you define sounds a being the sound waves then yes.

Gobee

Trad climber

Los Angeles

Oct 14, 2009 - 04:18pm PT

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Gobee

Trad climber

Los Angeles

Oct 14, 2009 - 04:20pm PT

He liked "J" WALKING!

the Fet

climber

Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La

Oct 14, 2009 - 04:22pm PT

Why did the chicken cross the road?
BARACK OBAMA: The chicken crossed the road because it was time for a CHANGE! The chicken wanted CHANGE!

JOHN MCCAIN: My friends, that chicken crossed the road because he recognized the need to engage in cooperation and dialogue with all the chickens on the other side of the road.

HILLARY CLINTON: When I was First Lady, I personally helped that little chicken to cross the road. This experience makes me uniquely qualified to ensure -- right from Day One! -- that every chicken in this country gets the chance it deserves to cross the road. But then, this really isn't about me.......

DR. PHIL: The problem we have here is that this chicken won't realize that he must first deal with the problem on 'THIS' side of the road before it goes after the problem on the 'OTHER SIDE' of the road. What we need to do is help him realize how stupid he's acting by not taking on his 'CURRENT' problems before adding 'NEW' problems.

OPRAH: Well, I understand that the chicken is having problems, which is why he wants to cross this road so bad. So instead of having the chicken learn from his mistakes and take falls, which is a part of life, I'm going to give this chicken a car so that he can just drive across the road and not live his life like the rest of the chickens.

GEORGE W. BUSH: We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to know if the chicken is on our side of the road, or not. The chicken is either against us, or for us. There is no middle ground here.

COLIN POWELL: Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see the satellite image of the chicken crossing the road...

ANDERSON COOPER - CNN: We have reason to believe there is a chicken, but we have not yet been allowed to have access to the other side of the road.

JOHN KERRY: Although I voted to let the chicken cross the road, I am
now against it! It was the wrong road to cross, and I was misled about the chicken's intentions. I am not for it now, and will remain against it.

NANCY GRACE: That chicken crossed the road because he's GUILTY! You can see it in his eyes and the way he walks.

PAT BUCHANAN: To steal the job of a decent, hard working American.

MARTHA STEWART: No one called me to warn me which way that chicken was going. I had a standing order at the Farmer's Market to sell my eggs when the price dropped to a certain level No little bird gave me any insider information.

DR SEUSS: Did the chicken cross the road? Did he cross it with a toad? Yes, the chicken crossed the road, but why it crossed I've not been told.

ERNEST HEMINGWAY: He crossed to die in the rain. Alone.

GRANDPA: In my day we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Somebody told us the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough.

BARBARA WALTERS: Isn't that interesting? In a few moments, we will be listening to the chicken tell, for the first time, the heart warming story of how it experienced a serious case of molting, and went on to accomplish its life long dream of crossing the road.

ARISTOTLE: It is the nature of chickens to cross the road.

JOHN LENNON: Imagine all the chickens in the world crossing roads together, in peace.

BILL GATES: I have just released eChicken2008, which will not only cross roads, but will lay eggs, file your important documents, and balance your check book. Internet Explorer is an integral part of the Chicken. This new platform is much more stable and will never cra...#@&&^(C% ......... reboot.

ALBERT EINSTEIN: Did the chicken really cross the road, or did the road move beneath the chicken?

BILL CLINTON: I did not cross the road with THAT chicken. What is your definition of chicken?

AL GORE: I invented the chicken!

COLONEL SANDERS: Did I miss one?

DICK CHENEY: Where's my gun?

AL SHARPTON: Why are all the chickens white? We need some black chickens.

the Fet

climber

Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La

Oct 14, 2009 - 04:26pm PT

Charles Darwin: Chickens, over great periods of time, have been naturally selected in such a way that they are now genetically disposed to cross roads.

Captain James T Kirk: To boldly go where no chicken has gone before.
Sigmund Freud: The fact that you are at all concerned that the chicken crossed the road reveals your underlying insecurity.
Martin Luther King, Jr: I have a dream! I have a dream of a day, when ALL chickens can cross ALL roads without having their motives called into question!