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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 10, 2018 - 10:01pm PT
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One is the desperate children of a social formation which is on the verge of being wiped out.
That statement is more applicable to rich kids, than the poor.
Rich people can be extremely paranoid that they will lose their self-exalted status, and have to live like plebeians. This is especially true for inheritors of wealth, who would not be able to function as they would like outside of their current pampered existence. That loss-of-identity prospect is so frightening to them, a system of armed guards, gated communities and fortified residences are the norm, and not the exception these days.
What's missing is a sense of a coherent, total community in today's society. Increases in income disparity is accelerating that loss of a coherent community. A coherent, integral and connected society was what Made America Great. Chouinard and Frost could go from Ventura to the San Fernando Valley, and buy the best aerospace metals available, and then turn them into the best rock climbing equipment the world had ever seen.
BITD, the "rich guy" had the house on the block that had a swimming pool in the backyard. The other kids in the neighborhood used it, maybe because his lawn was mown. This was true even in places like Silicon Valley, where the founders of Intel, Sun and other money-machines lived a more simple existence, were members of the group, and had no intention of isolating themselves with a platoon of chain-guns to keep the rabble at bay.
Back then, a high maximum income tax rate compelled board directors to limit executive pay packages. Now, there is no limiting forces on executive pay, and a common wisdom in board rooms is that a particular person is so extraordinary that a $200 million pay package is not unreasonable.
That Board also votes for a $4 million security package for that guy, because the Man of the Moment is so flush with excessive cash, he is a juicy target for theft and kidnapping.
As Forrest Trump's mama used to say, "Crazy is, as crazy does".
EDITED for presentation, not content.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Apr 11, 2018 - 07:01am PT
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If just one of the hundereds of shennanigans Trump and his circus troupe have performed were done by a Democrat , impeachment would already be a done deal...More proof that the moral minority republican propaganda machine is running the country...Who cares if Trump leaves now...The tax cuts were made...Game over...
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Apr 11, 2018 - 07:16am PT
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In the news this morning: Paul Ryan not going up for re-election.
Why would so many life-ling pols decide this is the year to stop, if things are going so right?
Methinks it's kind of like the stock market. It's a risky ride, and stressful, but the key concept is that one must get out before it crashes and they lose everything.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Apr 11, 2018 - 07:39am PT
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One of the most consistent characteristics of Republicans is their continual theft of musical compositions as the theme music for their campaigns. Being unpopular themselves, they attempt a popularity-by-proxy gambit by ripping off popular songs from people who absolutely hate their stinking guts.
When Reagan started using Born in the USA as his theme music in 1984 I was flabbergasted. Didn't anybody in the campaign listen to the lyrics?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 11, 2018 - 07:40am PT
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Are we even sure that Syria gassed it's people? NO
It could have been like the last one, a bomb from ISIS or some one blew up a chlorine tank by accident, and Trump bombed the airstrip in retaliation
or it could have been Turkey, which some experts think
or Israel, or ISIS
or it never happened
those possibilities don't matter to warmonger Trump, he must strike...
scary times
thanks Republican voters
and in the end, every thing Trump and the Republicans accused Hillary of, they/Trump and doing a thousand fold.
New revelations of Trump's foundation receiving Russian money!!
Goldman Sachs, dependent on donors, not independent
Selling Uranium
Lying, corrupt, colluding with the Russian's!!!
Everything he says about others are projections of his inner demons
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Apr 11, 2018 - 07:53am PT
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Whoa Whoa Whoa!
That's a ridiculous as saying that looking at a Vatican Court decision gives you insight into a billion people.
your last example contradicts your proposition---that jewish decisions about who are jewish are the important and relevant decisions---Not to the Nazis, as you point out.
Obama did not live where Sharia Law was the law of the land, and he was never a citizen of any state that did.**
What is missing from your small intellectual effort is the ruling from any court, Sharia or otherwise, that legally declares Obama a muslim.**
So, you have no evidence to support your assertion.
Well if a Sharia court catches Obama, there's a good chance it will get him apostasy, for which the punishment is death!
I saw something about Michelle being deathly afraid to go to hardcore muslim countries because of that--not sure how true it is.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 11, 2018 - 08:03am PT
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WWIII any day now because of st00pid Americans in DC.
Americans in DC the dumbest idiots on the planet.
The brainwashed American public too ......
The American people are responsible.
If they had a real brain we would have a very nice peaceful planet.
Instead now nothing but dystopia .......
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Apr 11, 2018 - 08:14am PT
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In the news this morning: Paul Ryan not going up for re-election.
So I see four reasons why.
1. Ryan knows he would lose his next election
2. He is going to run for president.
3. He doesn't want to be a part of the impeachment process.
4. Doesn't want to be the last one to jump off a sinking ship.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Apr 11, 2018 - 08:17am PT
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WWIII any day now because of st00pid Americans in DC.
Americans in DC the dumbest idiots on the planet.
The brainwashed American public too ......
The American people are responsible.
If they had a real brain we would have a very nice peaceful planet.
Instead now nothing but dystopia .......
The American white trash are responsible.
fixed it for you.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Apr 11, 2018 - 08:38am PT
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I saw something about Michelle being deathly afraid to go to hardcore muslim countries because of that--not sure how true it is.
That's absolutely true, she never set foot into any hardcore Muslim nation. And if she ever would, you bet she'd be wearing a head scarf out of fear.
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dirtbag
climber
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Apr 11, 2018 - 08:45am PT
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So Paul Ryan, the “Serious, sober-minded policy wonk,” who championed a regressive tax cut that will balloon the deficit to a trillion dollars annually, while ebabling trump’s worst excesses, decided to quit.
Good f*#king riddance to that spineless puke.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Apr 11, 2018 - 09:48am PT
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WaPost
Trump says veterans wait too long for health care. VA’s 33,000 vacancies might have something to do with that.
You wonder if the vets who voted for Trump, on the understanding that he would start dismantling the pillars of the US Gov't, realized that the VA was one of those pillars, and that it is his goal to dismantle it?
This particular area highlights one of the real contradictions in Republican theology: Love of the military (note: Veterans are NOT the military, no matter what they think) vs hate of expenditure of tax dollars. (they don't hate to spend borrowed money, just tax money).
In this area, the contradiction becomes reconciled by giving more money to the military, and lip service to veterans, but actually interfering with veterans benefits. Nominating a man not competent to run the VA, to do exactly that, is an excellent example.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Apr 11, 2018 - 10:53am PT
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NY Times EDITORIAL
The Law Is Coming, Mr. Trump
By The Editorial Board
The editorial board represents the opinions of the board, its editor and the publisher. It is separate from the newsroom and the Op-Ed section.
April 10, 2018
Why don’t we take a step back and contemplate what Americans, and the world, are witnessing?
Early Monday morning, F.B.I. agents raided the New York office, home and hotel room of the personal lawyer for the president of the United States. They seized evidence of possible federal crimes — including bank fraud, wire fraud and campaign finance violations related to payoffs made to women, including a porn actress, who say they had affairs with the president before he took office and were paid off and intimidated into silence.
That evening the president surrounded himself with the top American military officials and launched unbidden into a tirade against the top American law enforcement officials — officials of his own government — accusing them of “an attack on our country.”
Oh, also: The Times reported Monday evening that investigators were examining a $150,000 donation to the president’s personal foundation from a Ukrainian steel magnate, given during the American presidential campaign in exchange for a 20-minute video appearance.
Meanwhile, the president’s former campaign chairman is under indictment, and his former national security adviser has pleaded guilty to lying to investigators. His son-in-law and other associates are also under investigation.
This is your president, ladies and gentlemen. This is how Donald Trump does business, and these are the kinds of people he surrounds himself with.
Mr. Trump has spent his career in the company of developers and celebrities, and also of grifters, cons, sharks, goons and crooks. He cuts corners, he lies, he cheats, he brags about it, and for the most part, he’s gotten away with it, protected by threats of litigation, hush money and his own bravado. Those methods may be proving to have their limits when they are applied from the Oval Office. Though Republican leaders in Congress still keep a cowardly silence, Mr. Trump now has real reason to be afraid. A raid on a lawyer’s office doesn’t happen every day; it means that multiple government officials, and a federal judge, had reason to believe they’d find evidence of a crime there and that they didn’t trust the lawyer not to destroy that evidence.
On Monday, when he appeared with his national security team, Mr. Trump, whose motto could be, “The buck stops anywhere but here,” angrily blamed everyone he could think of for the “unfairness” of an investigation that has already consumed the first year of his presidency, yet is only now starting to heat up. He said Attorney General Jeff Sessions made “a very terrible mistake” by recusing himself from overseeing the investigation — the implication being that a more loyal attorney general would have obstructed justice and blocked the investigation. He complained about the “horrible things” that Hillary Clinton did “and all of the crimes that were committed.” He called the A-team of investigators from the office of the special counsel, Robert Mueller, “the most biased group of people.” As for Mr. Mueller himself, “we’ll see what happens,” Mr. Trump said. “Many people have said, ‘You should fire him.’”
In fact, the raids on the premises used by Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, were conducted by the public corruption unit of the federal attorney’s office in Manhattan, and at the request not of the special counsel’s team, but under a search warrant that investigators in New York obtained following a referral by Mr. Mueller, who first consulted with the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein. To sum up, a Republican-appointed former F.B.I. director consulted with a Republican-appointed deputy attorney general, who then authorized a referral to an F.B.I. field office not known for its anti-Trump bias. Deep state, indeed.
Mr. Trump also railed against the authorities who, he said, “broke into” Mr. Cohen’s office. “Attorney-client privilege is dead!” the president tweeted early Tuesday morning, during what was presumably his executive time. He was wrong. The privilege is one of the most sacrosanct in the American legal system, but it does not protect communications in furtherance of a crime. Anyway, one might ask, if this is all a big witch hunt and Mr. Trump has nothing illegal or untoward to hide, why does he care about the privilege in the first place?
The answer, of course, is that he has a lot to hide.
This wasn’t even the first early-morning raid of a close Trump associate. That distinction goes to Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump’s former campaign chairman and Russian oligarch-whisperer, who now faces a slate of federal charges long enough to land him in prison for the rest of his life. And what of Mr. Cohen? He’s already been cut loose by his law firm, and when the charges start rolling in, he’ll likely get the same treatment from Mr. Trump.
Among the grotesqueries that faded into the background of Mr. Trump’s carnival of misgovernment during the past 24 hours was that Monday’s meeting was ostensibly called to discuss a matter of global significance: a reported chemical weapons attack on Syrian civilians. Mr. Trump instead made it about him, with his narcissistic and self-pitying claim that the investigation represented an attack on the country “in a true sense.”
No, Mr. Trump — a true attack on America is what happened on, say, Sept. 11, 2001. Remember that one? Thousands of people lost their lives. Your response was to point out that the fall of the twin towers meant your building was now the tallest in downtown Manhattan. Of course, that also wasn’t true.
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JC Marin
Trad climber
CA
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Apr 11, 2018 - 11:40am PT
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It's not the crime (lack of erection) it's the cover up...
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Apr 11, 2018 - 11:50am PT
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At least we'll surprise those Russkies with our Syrian missile attack. Oh wait, sorry, forgot about twitter.
Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 11, 2018
What a genius this guy is.
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Trump
climber
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Apr 11, 2018 - 11:55am PT
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“ why would so many life-ling pols decide this is the year to quit, if things are going so right? Methinks it’s kind of like the stock market. It’s a risky ride, and stressful, but the key concept is that one must get out before it crashes and they lose everything.”
I guess that makes Paul Ryan one of the smart ones.
And if in the risky ride, the stock market going up is an example of things going “right”, well then yea me! Try it, and see which side of our mouths it tastes bad in.
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO & Bend, OR
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Apr 11, 2018 - 01:09pm PT
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When the leader of the Republican majority in Congress, doesn't even want to be politically associated with the President of his own party ... and that is what Ryan's retirement decision means ... it's the "Querencia" for Don Trump.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 11, 2018 - 01:19pm PT
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At least we'll surprise those Russkies with our Syrian missile attack.
Well, that would make for be an interesting test of the upgraded radars on the S-400 air defense systems currently deployed in Syria.
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Trump
climber
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Apr 11, 2018 - 01:24pm PT
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Right, it’s not like I won the presidency of the United States by running a campaign in which I called that guy disloyal and a weak and ineffective leader two years ago.
Oh wait, I did do that. Try not to notice. It tastes pretty bad to say it out loud.
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