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bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jun 13, 2012 - 08:03pm PT
Funny, I was cleaning out my car today for the first time in eons and I found two half-empty bottles of Chivas stashed behind one of my back seats. They went straight into the dumpster. I felt like I was handling toxic waste.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jun 13, 2012 - 08:17pm PT
booze is good for your kidneys, liver, brain, stomach, heart, muscles, skelatal joints, relationships, energy level, driving record, just about everything.

what a miracle drug, eh?

and it's free, what more could you ask for?





Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 13, 2012 - 08:29pm PT
It's difficult for me to muster the courage to check in with everyone on this thread.

Regardless, hey there!

I'm stuck in a world of too much drinking. Shoot, I've had too much to drink tonight. It was a bottle of wine and a beer.

Y'all are an inspiration to me. I need to kick this sh#t sooner rather than later.

Let's keep this between us though, ok?
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jun 13, 2012 - 09:03pm PT
This the last verse of a song I wrote in 2006 when I was in the process of quitting. (C) Nick Goldsmith
Good beer and whisky - it will be the end of me
got to find annother way - somehow I have to see
got to turn my life arround- I'm running out of time
got to have one last chance - before I kiss the sky
If I had a dime- for every time she said goodby
I would drink untill the well went dry

I would hang my head and cry.............
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Jun 13, 2012 - 11:12pm PT
It's difficult for me to muster the courage to check in with everyone on this thread.

Regardless, hey there!

I'm stuck in a world of too much drinking. Shoot, I've had too much to drink tonight. It was a bottle of wine and a beer.

Y'all are an inspiration to me. I need to kick this sh#t sooner rather than later.

Let's keep this between us though, ok?

Dude hang in there. It not that hard if you REALLY want it. It is a bit of work in the beginning. It's kinda like quitting smoking. Don't pick up the first one. And get around folks that are doing the same thing you are. If you go to an AA meeting and don't like it keep going to different meetings until you find one that fits. They are all different. So don't get discouraged. AA is not the only solution but it is the one that worked for me.
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Jun 14, 2012 - 05:39am PT
Just my .02...

While N's poems are usually far beyond my comprehension, they are nowhere near as bad as the constant and blatant disrespect that "Dr. Sprock" spews into this any many other threads.

Do us a favor, and take your crap elsewhere. This thread is for people trying to beat this disease, myself included. There are plenty of other threads for you to attack.

And to Brandon -

Thanks for checking in, man! Keep coming back :D You can do this crazy sobriety thing, if you choose to. If you had told me over 12 years ago now that I would spend a day sober,(let alone years) I would have laughed in your face...lol...but it can happen!
Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Jun 14, 2012 - 06:40am PT
Wow...This thread is awesome.Never posted on this thread,but thinking about kickin' booze.This thread gives me inspiration. 3am and I'm sittin' here havin' a PBR. How stupid. Kinda crazy how the sauce has changed me. My hobbies are climbin',flyfishin', and skiing. All things that have been hand in hand with drinkin' beer for me. When doing any of said activities,it seems like beer should just be involved. On our way to the boulders/river/snow my friends just assume we need to stop to get beer(fer me). Hilarious part is my best friend doesn't even drink. He always says "I don't think you need to stop,just slow down". That system doesn't seem to work fer me. Also just had a friend my age (45) die from drinking. Should be a wake up call ,right? Anyway,just wanted to say keep posting on this issue and inspiring me. Thanks folks. I'm gonna kick this sh*t.

Edit: Just for levity,alcohol has landed me in jail in France,Mexico,Montana ,Colorado and California. Someone slap me!!
Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Jun 14, 2012 - 07:08am PT
Minor infractions all.Somehow I don't even have a record.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jun 14, 2012 - 12:02pm PT
This is ridiculous. You guys can endure weeks of suffering on a wall or in a sleeping bag in Nepal but you don't have the willpower to quit drinking? I quit drinking years ago and it was one of the best decisions of my life. Make a decision and stick to it!
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jun 14, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
As time goes on, I see that life could have gone many different ways. There but for the grace of God, it could be me. At 20 or 30, I probably thought I was too smart to ever get into trouble. Now that I am older, I see the hubris in that attitude and much more sympathy for those who struggle. I check in to this thread to see how you are doing with your struggle, to see you celebrate another day of success, to see you inspire and support each other. You remind me of the humanity in each soul I encounter, no matter what station in life they may occupy at this moment.
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Jun 18, 2012 - 10:47pm PT
I suppose it was trite to imply that quitting drinking is like quitting smoking in my earlier post. But my point was don't pick up the first one. The drink that is ( works with smoking too).

I sometimes tell myself there is nothing that could happen to me, that a drink wouldn't make worse. When I was first getting sober there was not anything I wouldn't do not to pick up that first drink. I was truly desperate and scared that I would screw it up like so many other things I had tried to do.

The best thing I think I did was to try to help others. So to all of you that are struggling.... I feel your pain and I have been there, and got to the other side. You can too!
kaholatingtong

Trad climber
the green triangle, cali
Jun 19, 2012 - 01:06am PT
for anyone having trouble. you're brains ability to change and adapt and through meditation/therapy/willpower etc never stops throughout your entire life. it is never too late. look up "neuroplasticity" and start thinking/acting positively.
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Jun 19, 2012 - 09:24am PT
I heard on that show "On Being" on NPR:
http://www.onbeing.org/program/investigating-healthy-minds-richard-davidson/251

One of the things that Richard Davidson said was to effect real change requires daily practice.

There is that One Day At A Time thing. Do something daily to change your life and it WILL HAPPEN.

Or you could try this:
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jun 19, 2012 - 09:55am PT
Saw this on my facebook page and thought it might be motivating to the A5 climbers here wondering if they can quit drinking. People capable of doing things I could only dream about. It's simply a matter of deciding its time to get your sh#t together, and remaining on that transformative path permanently, as was just observed. Hankster, my comments were made in the spirit of admiration and I regret if they were misinterpreted. Also, PM me for better pics if interested.

 Paul


Living on Borrowed Time

You may have heard the term ‘time management’ before and dismissed it as being one of the many newly concocted phrases of the self-help industry. However, it refers to using the time one has in the most effective manner and although not always labeled as that, this single trait has often been cited by many as one of the key success factors of all productive human beings, alive or dead, be it in the material or spiritual sense. Time is life and once lost can never be retrieved. The value of time is something never underestimated by people who live to make a difference and has always been the common denominator of those who left a legacy behind them.

Sometimes you will hear someone say ‘I do X to kill time’ as if having spare time is an annoying hindrance. At the other end of the spectrum are individuals who are constantly complaining ‘I don’t have enough time’. And the last type are the ones I envy: nearly always doing something productive, never complaining about the excess availability of time or lack thereof and they carry themselves with a certain aura of serenity, always maximizing their usage of time and realizing that every minute gone by is not going to return.

Time management is redundant if you are living your life doing whatever comes across your path, wandering aimlessly from one day to the next, not really knowing what direction you’re heading in. Having clearly defined goals in life is vital to living a healthy well-balanced life. Being unsure of where you are going can cause anxiety and a sense of dissatisfaction with life.

Once you have your goals in life clearly defined with scheduled action plans, the second step, prioritising will become easier. Trying to fit in a multitude of tasks in the limited time available can become a challenge when you haven’t decided what tasks should come first.

The third step is to mentally and physically get rid of the stumbling blocks in your life which allow you to be unproductive or procrastinate. Coming across a task you don’t want to complete, have you ever found yourself discovering new things to do which weren’t important two minutes ago? If you have, you are a ‘structured procrastinator’. You make yourself believe that you are being productive and not lazy, but what you’re really doing is putting off critical tasks.

At other times, you may make excuses like ‘I just don’t have the willpower’ as if willpower is like eye colour; something you were born with. Willpower is a personal trait which can either be developed or ignored. Accordingly, time management will hone your personal qualities, such as patience, determination, and self-discipline.

And the final step is to wake up early. Along with taking these other teps, bid farewell to the cozy duvet early in the morning and say to yourself: “Here I come. I have a purpose in life to fulfill, goals to achieve and no time to waste.”
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jun 26, 2012 - 09:23pm PT
Wharf rats
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jun 27, 2012 - 06:45pm PT
The real key is that you have to come to that place where you are finally ready, willing and wanting to change.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 27, 2012 - 06:51pm PT
Hey Plaidman,

Still here, checking in.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Jun 27, 2012 - 07:24pm PT
This is ridiculous. You guys can endure weeks of suffering on a wall or in a sleeping bag in Nepal but you don't have the willpower to quit drinking? I quit drinking years ago and it was one of the best decisions of my life. Make a decision and stick to it!
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Most of us would say that if you can simply quite by making a decision, you were never an alcoholic as we define one. But it's great that you are sober. For the rest of us, trying to achieve a meaningful life through will power is a prescription for disaster.

JL
Edge

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Jul 1, 2012 - 08:42am PT
July 1st: Two years sober today, and 51 cycles around the Sun as well.
perswig

climber
Jul 1, 2012 - 09:35am PT
Congrats on both, Edge.
Stay safe and smart around all those honed blades and spinning gears.

Dale
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