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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jul 28, 2005 - 01:09am PT
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"Hippies and Free Love destroyed this country."
No, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon did it on their own without any outside help from flower power.
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Watusi
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Jul 28, 2005 - 03:15am PT
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Wow!! Bruce Morris! I don't know if you remember me...Peace, Michael Paul.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jul 28, 2005 - 01:16pm PT
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Who could ever forget Michael Paul (even before his film stardom!) Are you actually in Mt Shasta now?
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Jake
Trad climber
Dublin, CA
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Jul 28, 2005 - 04:04pm PT
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Rokjox, I am one of the apparently underrepresented SuperTopo "kids". As a 23 year old chemical engineer/climber, my generation does not seem too different from the older majority. I found myself smiling as I read Shack's nostalgic post. We too played cul-de-sac baseball until dark and convinced the younger neighborhood kids that it was cool to step in dog poo. I crashed my bike (many times) in someone else's driveway and my parents didn't sue the owners. But, my mom stopped smoking when I was conceived. I didn't sleep in a crib with lead paint or play with mercury. I had a Nintendo by age 8, and it was ok.
It seems as if some posters think it is so much worse for the "other generations". That's not such a bad thing, because it means THEY thoroughly enjoyed THEIR childhood. After all, it was so much better and more pure than anyone else's, right?
I undoubtedly share the same anti-TV, anti-gaming consol sentiment expressed by many posters here. It is unfortunate that some parents use it as a sedative for their unruly kids.
In this "sick, sad, twisted" [insert slightly sarcastic tone] world we live in today, there still are other options. I was wrapping up a day of climbing at Lovers Leap last weekend with a beer and some goofing around on the Campground Boulders. There were a couple of sub-10 year olds ripping it on a few problems. I hold their parents in high regard for taking the time to share something they love with their kids. As a kid, I rode around in my dad's backpack while he hiked and stood, not sat, in the kiddie bike seat while he went on bike rides. I turned out ok. I'm not sharing this for the sake of talking about myself. I'm sharing it because I believe a child's future depends heavily on their parents. So, use this "Will the Next Generation be Pussies?" post as a reminder that it is up to you how you raise your kids and how your kids raise their kids. After all, who wants to raise a pussy?
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MikeL
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 28, 2005 - 08:18pm PT
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Ha! There's hope yet.
How can the next generation not learn and go farther forward than the last one did? How can you not have an optimistic view about the future? Yeah, I know, the world's going to hell in a handbasket, but what's new? I'll bet Caesar's kids said the same thing about him and his generation. Two steps forward, one step back, a rejection of the old ways of doing things, and an attempt at a new way.
I have seen kids (18-35) in classes since 1979. Yeah there're different than we were, but in very interesting ways. All that TV has made them pretty savvy about advertising and marketing, and when it come to political offerings, they are pretty adept at cutting through the BS as much as any of us. Moreover, the most recent generation (now coming into latter teenage years) seems to be particularly civic minded folks, reminescent of the Grand Generation that Tom Brokaw wrote about (the one that fought and lived through the Depression and WWII). Although I don't always "get" them or their ways, I am generally inspired by the younger generations. They ain't us--and for that I can say, "Thank God!"
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Watusi
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Jul 29, 2005 - 02:09pm PT
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No Bruce, I'm still in Joshua Tree, it's my brother Dave who lives in Shasta. He occasionally runs into our old friend Peter Chesko there.
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