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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Feb 28, 2009 - 02:39pm PT
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You guys are too much! What a thing to make into an opportunity!
Now there's something we should all learn from!
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 28, 2009 - 02:47pm PT
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Senior Dirtineye;...never had the pleasure to meet you , but climbed with some of your gear that justhemaid has of yours...(She probably stole it;...she's part gypsy I believe).....so hang tough, get out the Michael Phelps bong with Jeff Lowe, and keep the party going.....we'll keep your climbing spirit alive here in So. Cal whenever we use your gear....we shall do you up proud.......Here is a FA we did (My Penis Floats 5.11a/b...FA T. Gordon, Tucker Tech, Mister E, Robert Fonda, and justhemaid) at Joshua Tree, using your gear for our anchor....thanks....you rock....
Rouge, vagabon, peri-winkle pated woman, and a gear thief.....I believe you know this ruffian.....
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Ottawa Doug
Social climber
Ottawa, Canada
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Feb 28, 2009 - 03:07pm PT
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Hey Mr. Dirt,
Wishing you peace even though I'm one of the people here you don't know. I've read enjoyed many of your posts. You've got a ton of real friends on this site. Take strength from them and I hope you and Jello have fun this week.
Cheers,
Doug
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Feb 28, 2009 - 03:11pm PT
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Where do I fly into?
-CluelessJello
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Fletcher
Trad climber
here to eternity
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Feb 28, 2009 - 03:38pm PT
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Hey Dirt,
Rubberneckers don't stop, offer genuine good wishes and other things, and sign their real names. This is is different place than you get to with an in person relationship, but amongst all the ones and zeros, a slice of who you are does come through. And people have seen that and responded to it in one way or another (it may even be a silent response). If there wasn't a relationship of some kind that had some value, I don't think you'd ever get any responses, healthy, sick or whatever else.
You're the real deal, the good, the bad and the ugly, but in the end, to paraphrase John Cage, it's all beautiful.
You have taught others at least two things here (probably a heck of a lot more):
1. Get that colonoscopy when around 50! Duh.
2. A little bit about dying and accepting and embracing it. I'd be hard pressed to say much of anything is absolute, but humans and death are inseparable. We can deny the heck out of it, but we got to deal with it sooner or later. And I think the later the more difficult it can be to work with. I think you've done a good thing with being honest about your feelings regarding that.
Todd's post about the FA with your stolen gear is the best. That's love.
Keep up the piss and vinegar as long as you want. You already know when it'll be the time to go. In the meantime, we're still appreciating and enjoying you.
Peace bro'
Eric
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Feb 28, 2009 - 04:14pm PT
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Dirt,
Space-time is a four-dimensional manifold, an infinitesimal slice of the Hilbert Space of eternity. Who knows whether and where we will all end up, and who knows whether our time is today, tomorrow, or not for years to come?
Far be it for me to pretend to find silver linings in a journey's end, and yet, having experienced the deaths of my parents, very different types of deaths, I feel that there is a certain privilege in being able, at the end of a hard day, to look back at the adventure you've had, the wrong turns and the right ones, the friends made and lost, the things you got away with, and the things you didn't, and see yourself, as you approach the trailhead, exhausted from your efforts, yet even so excited by the experience, in the context of a whole life, with its web of connections, it's successes and failures, its satisfactions and regrets.
For it is not given to all of us to pause at a high point at the end of the trail and survey the route taken, and although you, and all of us I'm sure, would wish for another day and yet another new path to try, you still have the blessing of that final vista. May you draw a deep and satisfied breath, and may you share the wisdom and emotion conferred by such a perspective with good friends and loved ones.
We'll be thinking of you Dirt, and we will remember.
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RRK
Trad climber
Talladega, Al
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Feb 28, 2009 - 04:35pm PT
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Jello
Birmingham has an airport but it doesn't fly direct to anywhere (except maybe New Orleans and possibly Hell) Connecting through to Bham would be the most convenient to Dirt. If you can't get a budget connection through Hotlanta or Dallas (seems like the last time I flew back from Moab it was through Cincinnati?) I can drive over and get you in Atlanta. It's about a 2 hour trip by car so, from your perspective it would probably be worth a few extra bucks to get a connection to Bham. Any way that works for you is ok.
RRK
PS I'll have to schedule around a day next week to go to Bham for my son's EEG. It just came up today and I won't know exactly when till Monday. Make plans regardless because I'm great at multitasking and I won't drop you.
RRK
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Feb 28, 2009 - 04:51pm PT
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Dirtbro, Like my sister, I've been out planting seeds.. Call me Johhny Ca Poppy, seed. From my POV id rather you were able to come see them, or my photos of them. But, we work with the way it is. Hopefully we can compare notes some time, but in any case we already have... thank you for all of it!
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 28, 2009 - 05:15pm PT
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That's very sweet Lois.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 28, 2009 - 07:59pm PT
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I'm very sorry to hear Curt's sad news, and can only send him my best wishes. He sets a high standard for the rest of us.
I've never been to the southeast U.S., but once or twice thought it would be good to visit Curt, meet him in person, and have an adventure or two together. And then post a TR about it here, to his consternation. Perhaps it is not to be.
Yes, I admit that next to Kittimus, Loki is probably a bit of a pu**y. So you got me there. But although I am not a believer, the thought of your haunting LEB in her garden is a bit amusing.
I had a screening colonscopy, and recommend them - fun for the whole family. There are two good articles at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/health/esn-colonoscopy-expert.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=colonoscopy&st=cse
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/health/16cancer.html?scp=6&sq=colonoscopy&st=cse
Wherever you're bound next, Curt, I hope the voyage is one with fair skies and peaceful waters.
Anders
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Feb 28, 2009 - 08:51pm PT
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Kenny- Got the flight. Check your e-mail for details. Basically, I'll be able to spend all day Wednesday with Curt, and some time with you, too, I hope?
-Jello
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Feb 28, 2009 - 09:05pm PT
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"But although I am not a believer," -you me, the dirtman and others, Anders, "the thought of your haunting LEB in her garden is a bit amusing." I'll presume to speak for Lois, and say I think we ALL, like that idea!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Feb 28, 2009 - 09:42pm PT
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Bon Voyage my friend
I'm sure it will be a relief when it turns out you were mistaken in our ongoing discussions about the reality of the afterlife. Finally a win-win situation, you either get to be right or you get to live forever in one form or another.
The problem is figuring out how you can haunt us just enough to admit it! Make LEBs animals bark a lot at 4am?
In whatever case, I wish you the best state of Being each moment from this moment forward.
I'll be offering some prayers in a special temple here in India today, just to piss you off and get the last word. :-)
Much Love
Karl
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Feb 28, 2009 - 09:53pm PT
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And I as well continue to offer prayers for you ..... Lynne
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Feb 28, 2009 - 11:12pm PT
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LEB
"Actually, Karl, sometimes animals can sense spirits more readily than people can."
I know, that's why having Dirt get your beasts to torment you seemed like a perfect plan to keep in touch with Dirt!
;-)
Karl
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Well, let's assusme for a moment that the IS an afterlife, and I will ahve some ability to affect evets in this ( your ongoing) existence.
First, sorry guys, I will not be tormenting Lois.
HOWEVER, "ve haf vays..."
Neeldess to say, some of you will ahve to give up climbing, bacuase your gear win NEVER stay put again. everything will go wrong for you in climbing. YOU know who you are.
I guess I am a bit of a grudge holder and a little man at taht sometimes, hahaha.
Others of you will find that you cannot fail. YOU probably know who you are too.
Still ohters will fall in between,-- those who obvious need a a little fvcking with but nothign dangerous or mean.
To tell the trugth I'll just have to wait ans see just how much I can do. It will be a new experience, being in some ways all powerful ofer the lives of others, haha, of course, with my budding god comples, I'm sure I will rise to the occaseion...
Hmmm are you really sure you want there to be an after life for me? It could be very bad you see...
A deram to some, A nightmare to others!!! muaahahahahahah! I love that line from Ron Moody ans merlin in King Atrhur, LOL. IT sumes um one of my self imageins when I'm in a waeker moment.
I try to be good, really I do. In fact, most of my life i was way too nice, alwasy getting my feelings hurt trying to be nice to people. I wans not ready for the real world and mean people.
Orf course I changes when I got on the inmnternet adn people were typcail xavage. I decided it was time to stop turning the other cheek and fight fire with nuclear holocauset on those whom i deem unworthy, that is,as#@&%es, whe were mean to me or others for no good reasn, and I am prefectly compfrotable deciding who is wo in thpose situation (there's that god complex thing again)
SOrry if this is a bit offenseinve to some, hey you asked I'm telling, got no reason to lie at this point, and I'd prefer to hadn it out face up no doubt whateoever no conjecture needed as to waht I "mean" as a math backgrounded artist, I likte to tell it like it is, with a little flair LOL, so, deal with the unvarnishsed Curt, adn like it of don;t like it.
SOme iof this os for entertainment, some I hopeeducational ( ugh) and most will just fall on deaf ears, but 9sn;t that always the case?
No matter, I leave it to you as a gift, call it shyte or shilola, depending on our needs. My needs are met, adn almost nonexistent now, haha, can't touch me!
there is a freedom in death.
I can say waht I want. I can insult py dear parents and my family friensdd who are blind follower republicans and they have to listen, LOL, and I face no consequences for being "rude" LOL (telling the truth is rude you know, don't do it too much, people don;t like it).
Hmmm maybe thert wil lbe consequences if hte afterlife for my actioins? I'm not sure about that. Porobably there should be. I don;t liek the idea of any exietence where one might be able to just act without conciene3ce and pay no pirce for it.
I think I will mostly try to behave, except for those few people who REALLY deserve, well a lot of shyte to drop on thier head.
Like republicand rightwingnuts wo ahve raped the counry and failed to serve teh people instead serving Buisness at all costs. haha. THEY will Suffer if I ahve any say in it.
BUt back to Lois. Yes lois I got the book, nad it was very nice of you to send it, except you sent a book of NORTHERN wild floweres, and I live in theSOUTH! LOL, so it is pretty muc useless to me, but still it's the thoughtthat counts and I thank you for it.
I can;t tell you what to plant, I like most flowers, flower was in fact my fisrt word ever spoken ( see, I'm terminally nice, can;t help it, born that way) JUst don;t plant spider lilies, I don't like those LOL. anything wild is good, I muhc prefere wild floweres to culitvated, although I do like oriental and asine lillies and roses. My al time favorite wild flower common woudl be wild iris, and there are two here, the tennessee being blue nad the more southern one being purple. they are small and delicate, not liek the cultivated ones.
I do lie (exotic all lady slippers, and some of those grow up norht adn well asn in the south, but you really can;t just grow them without a LOT of effort and care, and they are prone to die out in captivity. so probably don;t try em.
Again if it comes out of the wods or just comes up natureally on your property, that is great, I'll like that even more, Voluteers are cool. I did dig up a wild hyacinth and the are very nice, the bulba re deep though so dig very deep if you find any and be sure to give em the same condition you dug em from, or they will just die too. that's the trick with transplanting wild floweres, you gotta give what they want. some are like weeds though and some aree pickey. if you wish you honor me, you'll need to get some picky ones, LOL, cause after all, I am picky. sadyl, one of my (very few and minor of course) character flaws.
LOL man I am glad god does not throw lighting bolts any more, Ithink I just earned one.
Mock GOd: this will be important. I think if there is an afterlife then there robably would be a hierarcyn adh teh top guy would call himself god. a bit pretentios don;t you think? I will do my best to annoy him, which is alwo how I will wind up ruling Hell shoudl it exist. I will just annoy satan to teh pont where he givesup. I cna be very annoying when i want to. It comes naturalyy, and can be a great asset, at least sometimes. Other times, not so hot, to annoy people without meaning too, which I really don;t want to do.
If I intend to annoy I want it ti be very straight forawrd and unmistakeable, LOL, which is as it should be. but really, usually such activity is a collossal waste of time and effort and not worth dpoing, so I keep it to a minimum, like the use of nukes. dangerous and not for daily use, you know? probably for the best.
Better to be nice when you can, and even when you can't. works better. It's really easy to be nice in fact, more peopel should try it.
Boy am I ever rambling again.
I hope this is not boring, that is a great crime in writing-- to bore the audience. I'm just shocked that I have any audience, LOL.
Sspeaking of audeince, I should clear one thing up: JTM ( SKIP) did NOT stal my rack. that was a bad joke by todd GOrdon, not meant to be bad, but as you woudol expect a few people had to ask if shereallystole my rack, and the anser is , NO, I gave it to her, but she tok the wrong stuff as well, and then I asleked for most of it bafk cause I was supposed to get better anyeay, ( too bad that was WRONG) and I would up getting the aid stuff nad all the reast to Steg, who will use it hte way I intended, which is FA FA FA, adventure climbing, leading new thijngs, whihc unfortuhnately the rather wimpy ( just the truth, hno animosity ) maid will NEVER do, casye well, she don;t lead anything new or hard, and in fact prefers to clea nda follow, which she is very very good at BTW.
It's funny how someone can fly up a climb like a rocket in top belay but aske them to lead the same climb and they piss in thier boots. LOL. Adventure and leading is not for everyone I guess.
But again, the maid stole nothing, I told her to keep the camelots nad tcus, ( but not being too bright she accientally sent one camelot back and kept some things she was supposed to return, poor thing, she ReALLY can be dense sometimes, but I love her anyway)
The only thihg she stole was my heart. It's funny, we have so many thing in common, including physical things, we have the same feet, so my custom made mekan climbing shoes htat I cna no lionger use fit her prefrectly which is good cause she ahs a lot of trouble getting shoes that fit right, so I told her to keep those along with the camelots and tcus, whihc is a pretty damed good bunch of stuff to have given to you after all. and I'm glad she has em, cause she loves climbing so much
hell treat anyone you are involved with right, put their needs before your own, and be a good partner. OR you'll just f*#k up. that's my advice on relationships for everyone in fact, and it's good. Took me forever toget it right, adn in the end, evne that was not enough, but I still did the right thing, and I can live with it.
Too bad I got sick, but that's life, adn it might have faield anyway, best laid plans and all that, but you takes your chances adn lives your life, and takes what you get, and make the best of it, and that's all you can do, except it really helps to try to do teh right thing, and deep down I think most of us know that that is.
we make mistakes, but we can try to correct em, and that's abotu all there is. try to be happy and try to help others be happy. not a bad idea is it?
Oh well, goddammnit I really did not want to do a " here's what iV;e learned as I die, it's good and worth hearing and maybe it will help you," but it f*#king happend anyway.
I hope it's not too off base. again, maybe it will help someone. and that would be nice.
I'm no philosopher, I'm a math/art guy. strange combo. indeed. give me facts, make sense, but make it beautiful. tell teh truth. truth matters. bullshit is bad. call it what it is. Don;t suffer idiots, but try to help em not be idiots. LOL.
Ge I'm just full of cliche'd aphoristic nonsense today. I hate that.
Be real. be real be real. Live. Do. DOn't sit around-- make things happen, nobody wlse will. YOU are in charge of your own happiness.
Death hads it's bad side, it's comng too soon for me, but it has good points too. it will be a relief. it is not scary, what is scary is not getting done what I need to get done before I go. I will miss skip. I will miss emails with Jennie. I will mess meeting new people. I will miss creating the hundreds on new tuens that would have happened and are now going to die with me, never to be heard. that's sad. Turns out I had a realttalent for writning mustic, enough to revolutionize the clasical guitar body 9f work in fact. LOL the greatest classical guitar maker in in the world is my biggest fan, he calls me every few days to talk. that's an honor I NEVER expected. I just backed into it. but it had given me great hope and added meaning to my life and I am glad for it.
In fact, in climbing too I led a charmed life, always meeting just who was right at the right time, hitting it off with them every time. Made more good friends in climbing than in anything else I ever did, how odd.
How odd to meet perfect strangers and just blend with them like we'd known each other all ourt lives. and get along so well. it's scary good. makes no sense. real life , is it really like that? it was for me I guess. TO bad it';s almost over, jsut when I'mgetting it right.
Let THAT be a lseeon for you, get it right soon, so oucan enjoy it , LOL. DOn;t waste your time, it's all you got.
Enough for now.
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Double D
climber
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Best wishes for you dirt. My prayers go out to you.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Lois I would have planted tulip poplars over pine any day. if they wil grow there you should get some. most beautiful tree ever, wild, flowering, grat shape, good wood nice leaf, nothing to dislike about em ever.
coreopsis are nice.
snowberry coriopsis is very cool, we planted some this past year.
we are about to order bees ( I probably wont see the honey but I hope th see theeffect on the garden and fruit tree production, htat is the main reason for getting them-- all our wild ones are gone.
just abotu to start the volkov tomatoes, as usual, I am a bit late, but this illness has done that for me every year, so nothing new.
it's good to stagger a crop anyway.
I totally reccommend Vokov tomatoes, best heirloom I've found, with cherokee purple second bes.
chreokee have a great ptoperty-- planted late, havested green forthe winter,they still almost all ripen to a good texture and flavor, which is unusual. so if you grwo some cher0kee when it's time for tomato doom ( frost) just pikc em ALL even hte small ones, and you'lll have good tomates a while longer as they ripen. it's total luck i found htis out, but this year I'll do it on purpose if I am alive, and maybe my dad will take it over anywya.
also going to try some bakc crim.
giving up on cherries, never found one wihta good enough flavor to jsut9fy the space compared to a volkov or other good large tomato.
but hte bkac chreeise were fun. beware the heirloom Large Red CHerry, LOL thre of them wiill TAKE OVER!! you better like em caouse you'll have a cherry tomato jumgle and more fruit that you could ever reat off three plants. f*#king amazing wihs othyertomatoes grew and produced like that.
Oh seemslikeI owe Jabro a word of thanks and yes I'd love to see you pics-- unless things really change for the better( and it looks like a one way downhill ride from here more and more unfortunately) I will not be comong west again.or anywhere else.
thanks again to all who made teh offer tough, and in better circumstances I woudl certainly taeke advantage of em all.
Now as for how I will 'deal with Lois in hte after life, hmmm like i said not the tormen so many of you wihs for, she really does not deserve that, but I'm working on soemthign fitting.
I suspect somehow I could force her t0 confront the vagaries of her precious republicans, that would b3 the best, and have her actually realize whena a fin job of screwing this country up they have done, ahad then she'll be ashamed for suppprothging those nimrods, and becme a good democrat, who of course aer not at all blameles, just not quite as culpable as their feckless heedless republican scum counterparts.
HEy Lois riddle me this: how is it that under the partey that forthitry years claims they are for small gov and fiscal responsibility raises the deficit TRILLIONS of dollars enehver they have hte white hose, and the democrats who are supposed to be the smpend hogs alwasy have to fix things>
'support the bush incresase by the fiscally resonsible rethugs (NO(T) from 4 trillion to twelve trillion, if you dare. LOL you cant answer satifactorially, dont 3ven try, it woudl be embarrassing, and it's all ON YOU DAMNED RETHUGS. AS IS THE 4 TRILL FROM REAGAN BUSH, AND REMEMBER THEY STARTED WITH 951 BIL LEFT FROM POOR OLD CARTER.
WHo actually had the right energy policey, and we'd be so much better off in onlly thet MORON Ronald reagan had not totally dismantled the cater enery policy the dya he took office. alwas the retugs. they only mean to serve business, LOL. f*#king idiots.
YOu'll see In the afterlife I will make you see, yor make you miserable trying LOL.
God I am going to LOVE tormenting rethugicalns with the truth, it will be so much fun.
a few may actually see the light.
But for now, just remember, even though history is bsically the soty of Business screwing peopoe every chance they get, business can do no wrong, and will never do anythign to harm the customer, cause htat's bad business!!! LOL how false a notion is that?
EVERY TIME, look it up. see the gildee age for example.
see what food was liie pre FDA.
there another one to work on: all regulation is bad, business does nto need regulation. .NO we nneed MORE salmonessla in out peanut butter -- there are too many peaaanut butter eaters clooging up te system who must die in the name of profit!!
Fvcking morin rethugs, LOL.
did yo uknow htat under bush the LWBOR department, the defender of the worker, wasw changed so thayt their goal was to SERVERTHE INTERSSTS OF BUSINESS??? it's a FACT, you can look it up!!
F*#king rretugs anst a two class suystem-- ruliing class ansd serfs, LOL.
read about saipan, us protectorate that the retugs conside the ultimate good deal for hoe it should be.
go read about what WE allowed there. it iwll make you sick sick sick. ahd YOU retugs supported it, to the hilt..
you ahve to live with that.
LOL. IDOT rethuglicans, the list goes on and on.
you are responsible for ruining oour goverment and our country, morons.
jsut try getting this in your stupid little head:
GOverment shoudl serve the PEOPLE, NOT BUISNESS. PERIOD.
Got that? GOVermnet is there to SERVE THE PEOPLE.
so simple so true, hoe is it that the rethugs got it turned on it's head? server the rich, serve business, screw teh people. nice motoe I guess.
F*#king rethugpicans all should die. make hte world a better -lace tomorrow if htey did. LOL.
end rant.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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So, forty odd years ago I'm standing in the family room of the family house in Park Forest Ill, when the cat jumps up onto the arm of the couch, arches her back and hisses.
"She's just seeing a spirit she doesn't like. Cats are psychic, they do that," said my friend.
Cats mess with you as much as they show affection. a perfect medium for Dirtineye communication, that and computer gremlins.
My California poppies have not come up yet, but with the rain we've had it could be any time.
Dirt, if your situation changes (if you're as tenacious as you have been, in other words) we should climb 'Here's Mud in your Eye,' in Vedauwoo, together, I'm inviting myself on the houfglass trip, as well.
ps Lois, I predict Ponderosas won't make it back east, (too low, too much moisture, wrong soil) stick with Austrian Black Pines, they grow everywhere.
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