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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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DMT - I know for certain that one of the chippers is a resident of the local area. Now that being said, some of his partners are from southern California, in the OC to be specific.
Is chipping any less reprehensible when it is done by one of the locals? I think not. It's a terrible way to treat the rock, anytime. As standards advance, what is humanly possible continues to expand. Things people looked up at & just shook their heads & thought "no way that'll ever go", now are commonly done. Remember the Mandala in Bishop? Aren't we glad now that climbers of the 1960's didn't resort to chipping on routes/problems like that. Chipping, aggressive cleaning, whatever you choose to call it, is shortsighted & selfish.
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Radish
Trad climber
Seki, California
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Its mind boggling, with that much rock, to think some would chip. I've heard those rumours too, and have always wondered why they use the .12 rating on so many routes there??
Wamello
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Watch out for the likes of this crusty bird. Notice squaw dome in the background. Men in lederhosen with guns could await you around the next bend in the river.
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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Thank you for that link Bruno. I'm pretty sure that's the guy. Picture a cleaver in his hand! Oddly enough he is featured on the covers in both the upcoming issues of "Vogue" and "Field and Stream". I'd hang with him any day. Hey Radish, my mind get's boggled too. What's with the route crowding that has recently arrived? It makes me feel like I'm at the beach in LA or Yosemite Vally or maybe Times Square at New Years.. Where's Hasselholf!?
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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Chipping is gay, as are the folks who do it. Should probably be handled "bachar style", in the parking lot. Nawamean?
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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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Did someone say Hasselhoff? You asked for it!
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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That's disturbing. Edit: David H. that is.
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
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We've been soundly "lederhosed," gay rotpunkt!
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crazy horse
Trad climber
seattle, wa
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Once again everyone here has proven to me that supertopo is pretty much worthless. The original question was "have you climbed there, and what did you think of it?" The post was intended to get a feel for what people think of the climbing, not opinions on salsa, or chipping, or where most hold chippers hail from.
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
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I'm takin' my ball and I'm goin' home!
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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You have a very good point Sane Horse, I mean Crazy Horse.
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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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Crazy Horse- WTF??
Did you read ANY of the info on this thread?
Better take your meds pal. Come back when they're working again.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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"(i am aware that this will definatly [sic] start something)"
Sounds like you weren't really aware at all, were you, crazy horse? Rather than coming in and trolling, you might want to put some of the info you have down somewhere in an attempt to be productive rather than getting your panties in a wad when people inject some info/truth about the area.
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
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and you will be glad for all the info when Herr Hasselhoff exits Pico Rivera and shows up in the North Cascades and Squamish in the Knight Rider, with his chisel, standard beardnet, Vogue photogs and Taco Bell squishpackets.
Then you will understand.
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kev
climber
CA
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Yo Mental Horse,
Hmmmmm seems like I told you what I thought as well as many others. And I have been around there too (the talon, sqaw, grey eagle, the toad, the balls, other stuff by the toad, 557 wall, and some other places).
Don't go dissin the taco. PLENTY of real climbers here.
What did you do in the last week? I've spent 4 of the last 7 days climbing...On rock not plastic.
kev
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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I too have climbed and beardnetted fish in this area for over nine decades, plus or minus a few. I've yet to finish a route or land a trout! The salsa at El Sids is nowhere as good as it used to be. The local chicks claimed it made them horny. The local law inforcement made them water it down after the Brunosafari incidents.
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BBWolf
climber
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Thank you retarded horse... the replies to your post put the first smile of the day on my face.
I meant Crazy Horse
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
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(called "spanish fly")
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scooter
climber
fist clamp
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Dingus-
We are on the same page. There is a guy around here who is a chipping madman, I like the f***tard coment. I could not belive my eyes when I was looking at some boulders even that the guy chipped his way up. I thought the whole chipping debate was solved years ago. Pretty sad and REALLY lame.
Does anyone think it is appropriate to name the chipper? (besides aface or d*head)
Pat
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