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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal Hell
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Dec 19, 2008 - 05:30pm PT
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Love my Karhu Guides!!! but also like my fat K2 telemark skis for more serious uphill stuff~gotta love the ski crampons too, no sliding backwards for me...! :-)
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Tarbuster
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Dec 19, 2008 - 06:38pm PT
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High Sierra Hound Dog!!!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2008 - 06:39pm PT
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REI was uber-crowded (shock!). I went in an checked all the rigs out, came home and cracked another beer, ordered online.
You can even use the giftcards online...kick ass!!!!!
I should receive them Dec 31st. Merry Christmas to me!!!!!
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Tarbuster
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Dec 19, 2008 - 08:30pm PT
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 19, 2008 - 08:32pm PT
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I hope you brought your shovel.
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Tarbuster
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Dec 19, 2008 - 09:32pm PT
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No shovel, just passing through...
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Tarbuster
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Dec 19, 2008 - 09:34pm PT
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And as I was saying before,
Gear selection in accordance with anticipated terrain is essential:
Darnit!.... wrong photo again.
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Tarbuster
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Dec 19, 2008 - 09:39pm PT
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Tarbuster
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Dec 19, 2008 - 11:07pm PT
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Dec 20, 2008 - 06:24am PT
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Hey klk, Dan Asay's shop is in the back of the Rubber Room in Bishop. Just call him there. His custom boots are the best!
Dan and I were tinkering for awhile with leather XC boots built up on carbon fiber midsoles. Kick-and-glide and hold an edge on the headwall. Still my all-time favorite ski boots, but the market just went the other direction.
Lately saw a photo of a randonee racing boot, way light on a carbon platform that looked a lot like ours. I get tempted to revive it.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Dec 20, 2008 - 12:15pm PT
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Thanks DR. The number I had for him at Asay Boot doesn't seem to work anymore-- I'll call Tony.
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Tarbuster
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Dec 20, 2008 - 01:10pm PT
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That Rando racing thing is really taking off out this way.
Not that there's anything wrong with it.
http://www.bouldernordicsport.com/
I hear tell the gear is now lighter than downhill tele stuff.
DR, maybe you can comment on this one, sort of technical>>>>
It's been said that the pivot point for Rondo gear is actually better for touring than traditional 3 pin 70 mm Nordic norm. (and probably the same for the new NNN backcountry stuff, which is essentially a beefed-up version the current classic racing platform) pretty sure I've seen modern Tele bindings which have an alternate pivot point...
Sacrilege right?
I once had a pair of Europa 88's with a Silvretta Grasshopper binding, and the mid-weight leather boot that matched the set up had that squared off catch, just a bit of an extended welt up at the toe, and grooves back by the heel. In the Indian peaks here in Colorado, I checked the system by skiing in many miles, then cramponning up, then rockclimbing to a summit. 'Worked great.
'Pivoted just like modern Rondo gear, but was otherwise really a touring set up. People also used mountaineering boots in those bindings, yes?
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Tarbuster
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Dec 20, 2008 - 04:08pm PT
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Here is where I expose my true colors and all of you guys realize I am just cooked.
(you knew that already…right)
Sure this is way too much ski for the boot; but for touring only and not any sort of aggressive turning (a distinct liability in that regard), this is the modern equivalent of the old Silvretta binding paired with a mountaineering boot that had a good welt on it.
Remarkably this tours trails just as well as my three pin set up. The critical difference being not so much a lack of ankle support, but I’ve got no buckle across the instep to stop heel lift. LOWA once made a hybrid ski mountaineering boot, plastic with two buckles. It was pink/chartreuse and called the “Quantum”.
For approaches and general mountaineering, even rockclimbing, this actually works and the boot is a lot more forgiving for walking and climbing than a plastic mountaineering boot. You can’t really go rockclimbing too well in a BCNNN boot.
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Dec 20, 2008 - 04:55pm PT
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Wow, Roy. Typing most of the morning, and here I was gonna get out and work it a little.
Actually, I still will. Gotta put in one-K hill climb on a dripping trail in the redwoods to reduce the BS quotient and bring me a step closer to snapping into the ski season. Praise be to this momentary chill on our overheated planet.
Which reminds me I need to cut some firewood too.
But around dusk with the stove fired I'll push the big dictionary aside, cuz I've got information -- and yes, sheer obstinate opinion too -- to share on our fondly evolving obsession with sliding through winter. Silvrettas with ice boots indeed; now you got me going...
One of the biggest blessings of this life is that climbing and skiing happen at opposite ends of the calendar. For something to truly be thankful about, how'se it for starters that we don't have to choose one obsession over the other?
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Tarbuster
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Dec 20, 2008 - 05:02pm PT
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hahahahaha!
Indeed.
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Tarbuster
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Dec 20, 2008 - 05:37pm PT
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Gosh I love this forum so.
8° outside right now.
Have a nice 4-5 hour ski tour planned for tomorrow.
Party in Boulder tonight,
Get home & hopefully read some juicy extemporaneous ski-rambling-mountaineering stuff from Doug Robinson here...
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perswig
climber
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Dec 20, 2008 - 08:29pm PT
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Tuas, silvrettas and kicker skins - NICE. My first year of Mt. Wash skiing was skinny Tuas, Voile 3pin/cables, and kickers.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 20, 2008 - 08:39pm PT
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Put in a few miles with the geezers today on my old Epoke 900's
Butler was the objective, but geting up to Big Bear was a 2 hr traffic jam.
No peak, didn't get started till 11:00. Sticky new snow. I need to fix a screw on one ski binding and hot wax the tips and tails.
There was still a conga line going up as we returned. Don't know where all those people were going that late.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 20, 2008 - 09:46pm PT
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They are still my weapon of choice when ever a steel edge isn't a necessity (more often than not). Push 'em too fast and the tips chatter badly though. A bit too much flex.
They just need a little maintenence. We haven't had good local snow in over two years, so both the body and the boards need a little tuning.
I think the Circumnavigation was on 1200's or some such. a bit wider ski. That article was still my inspiration to buy them. Have never been sorry.
I used to do a trip up and down San Antonio at least every year on them. I'm geting to the age where I don't think that's a good idea solo, and I've had a hard time finding people that will do it more than once.
A "goofy foot" mountain.
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