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karabin museum
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phoenix, az
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Dec 16, 2016 - 04:58pm PT
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Nutstory - I love your Corsican humor! Many Blessings to you and your family for the holidays and for the 2017 year! I will talk to you after the holidays!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Feb 19, 2017 - 02:41pm PT
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I recently found some time to go through the boxes of Gear collection worthy of a museum. Looking at the original 20 or so photos it looked like I already had in the Karabin museum 90 percent of what was shown, but amazingly there are many different versions of the gear. So far it looks like half of the overall lot is a addition to the Karabin museum. Very exciting for sure!!!
I have a #3 Salewa Monokabel Klemmkeile that is colored yellow and red, but Halhammer has a blue #3. Was there a set that was originally noncolored then Salewa colored them? I ask this since halhammer #1 Monokabel Klemmkeile is noncolored or colored silver. Strange that my original Monokabel Klemmkeile has two colors on it unless the original owner painted the colors on it personally.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Unknown hook. In HalHammers lot there is a hook that at first looked like a Stubai, but is different. The Stubai has a slight curvature and is the same width throughout. This unknown hook tapers smaller at the tip. It looks also like a Cassin hook but the Cassin has a larger rounder sling loop. The tip of the unknown hook is grounded down possibly by the end user to be a Bat hook, as also in the lot was two Leeper hooks that were ground down to Bat hooks as well. Does anybody have any mfg guesses on this unknown hook?
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Unknown 1" Hex. Straight sided and looks manufactured or if it was homemade, it was machined in a shop. No visible saw marks or drill marks in the sling holes. The only marking is one hex panel is painted blue. Anybody know who created this Hex?
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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The full set, and the prototype on the top of the photograph:
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Salewa Monokabel Klemmkeile - HalHammer #1 is non-colored and the rest of the nuts follow the same colors as the nutstory photo. The #3 in the Karabin Museum is colored yellow in the oval "Salewa" area on the wire swag and on back side colored yellow on the words "West Germany", but the rest of the body of the swag is painted red. Yellow swag should be #0. Hmmmm....
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Your unknown bathook above started out as an early unstamped Clog. Not really the ideal hook for actual tapped in bathooking. The earliest Chouinard Skyhooks that featured a sharp downward angling tight bend are the genuine article once the tip was ground down to fit snugly in a 1/4" X 1/2" hole drilled at an angle matching the bend on the hook.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Steve - Great thought, but the Clog hook tips are fat and the cord side is thin, where the Unknown hook is opposite. Maybe it is a early Clog hook that is bent in the opposite direction?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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I have one that matches yours that I bought from one of the Burgess brothers long ago and is stamped. Someone likely got a second and modified it or had access to the shop during a run and made it directly for this intended use.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Steve - Awesome! Please double check your hook in your collection and then I will lock it in as a Clog item.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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It is a Clog. I have two of them.
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Mad69Dog
Ice climber
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I've got some gear that's museum-worthy. Years ago, when Deuce4 sold off a bunch of his gear I got his prototype made during the development of the BD Talon. I got a bunch of other stuff from John, via eBay.
Eric Coomer got a wild hair to replace the anchors on the Trip back in the mid-to late 90's (?) and wanted some help so I harassed Fish to contribute, and he did in a big way. Russ donated a large haul bag, bolts, about a half mile of webbing and a handfull of bits. I bought hangars, bolts, a bosun seat, intoxicants, and other goodies. In return for helping Eric get set up, he gave me a bunch of the fixed gear he took off the route, like fixed pins and manky old quarter inch bolts. It's still all in my gear stash. I'd love to hear from Eric again. He was lucky to survive that adventure.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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I did an early ascent of the Trip in 1977 with Mason Frichette and the drilled anchors were pretty sketchy even at that point at several belay stations up high on the route. I recall tying off three dowels above one belay that only had a single well-placed short 1/4" Rawl and a spinner. I guess Charlie was pretty tired of drilling after the Headwall. LOL
The Trip was the only Porter route that didn't work out as planned. Good thing that Royal abandoned his attempt down low as it wouldn't have suited him either.
I am curious to know what you have Mad69Dog.
Making hexes is pretty easy so you would have match up the milling details to sort out that nut.
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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
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From Fossil Climber, still the coolest most neato ass thing I've seen, and wanted, in a while!
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Mad69Dog
Ice climber
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"I am curious to know what you have Mad69Dog."
These are crappy shots but they are all I have right now. I'll try to get some better shots when I dig out the other gear. Now I'm wondering if the Talon came after this triple hook?
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Steve - Very good I will list the Unknown hook as a Clog. Thanks for solving the mystery!
Cosmiccragsman - All of my Clog hexes have tapered ends except for the #0 and #1 brass hex. The Unknown hex has straight ends with no taper. Hmmmm…..nutstory I am sure saw the Unknown hex but gave no response so he too (the nut master) is still pondering the question of the creator.
Mad69Dog - nice Duece prototype Talon! I looked through Johns amazing gear trunk as he was moving out of Flagstaff AZ and did not see that prototype. Maybe he was hiding it from me. Its so nice! I am already addicted to your hook porn!!!
Mike Honcho - I was under the impression that Wayne found a buyer for those mugs. I love how the bongs are also ceramic! Nice mug set for sure!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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I thought I had samples of all of the Wild Country Rocks, but the HalHammer collection gave me a surprise. The HalHammer Rocks did not have Wild Country stamped on the nut so the nuts just are stamped “ROCK.” I did not know these existed. This now gives the Karabin Museum seven different generations of the Wild Country Rock.
 Stamped “ROCK,” No “Wild Country” stamp, black plastic wire keeper.
Stamped Rock and Wild Country, sharp nut edges, black plastic keeper.
Stamped Rock and Wild Country, rounded nut edges, asst color wire keepers
Stamped Rock and Wild Country, one asterisk next to number, asst color wire keepers.
Stamped Rock and Wild Country, two asterisks next to number, asst color wire keepers.
Stamped Rock and Wild Country, two asterisks next to number, clear plastic over color plastic wire keeper.
Nuts are anodized asst colors, clear plastic over gray plastic wire keeper with Rock printed and number.
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Mad69Dog
Ice climber
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I love the visual WC Rock history! I should have a first gen #6 in a box around here. If I can find it, I'll donate it to your collection. Back at the dawn of the innernets, I hooked up with a Brit climber that was touring the US and part of his rack was assimilated into mine. Honest, it was an innocent acquisition. I offered to ship his lost nuts back across the pond but he told me to keep them. Bad joke deleted.
So many of the pioneers from the 60's and onward are either gone or fading, I've tried to talk a few of them into donating some of their oddball pieces. But these tend to be cantankerous old farts that don't want such advice. I think they are just sentimental of the good old days.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Great to see the generations of Rocks. TFPU!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Faded genes never go out of style, bra.
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