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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Feb 22, 2009 - 01:07am PT
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Not bad????
Ed, shame on you. :o)
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Feb 22, 2009 - 01:10am PT
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Now I want to see it, again!
Ed, have you seen 'The White Tower'? It was floating around here for awhile, Claude Reins, Lloyd Bridges, William Powell, and other top dogs, with a Screen play based on the James Ramsey Ullman novel, that I suspect you have read. Now that's! a climbing movie.
I can hook you up.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 22, 2009 - 03:11am PT
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Find the Sheridan Anderson cartoon about the "White Tower."
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Feb 22, 2009 - 04:20am PT
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hey there rocker mike... wow, after all this time, ... i had been wondering what happened and i missed the resurface of this answer you have here....
someone just bumped this, as of recent.. so i may now say:
very glad you are healed-up now, rockermike!
:)
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apogee
climber
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Feb 22, 2009 - 11:02am PT
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Watched 'The Outlaw Josie Wales' last night- this is really one of Clint's best. His first directorial effort, and you can really see the beginnings of his style. Great character development, interesting plot- worth checking out, if you're Clint fan (that would be me).
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Wack
climber
Dazevue
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Feb 22, 2009 - 11:33am PT
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The most important lesson I learned from ES was from the scene on top of the Totem Pole. Bring ice for the Oly.
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Dapper Dan
climber
Menlo Park
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Feb 23, 2009 - 10:26pm PT
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Anyone know what chimney route Clint is climbing here , this is the scene right before they climb the tower...
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Dapper Dan
climber
Menlo Park
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Feb 23, 2009 - 10:41pm PT
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stellar chimney technique from our hero...
the piton didn't look to bomber as he was nailing
look at that rack...
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Fletcher
Trad climber
the campfire just a ways past Chris' Taco stand
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Feb 23, 2009 - 10:45pm PT
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In Dapper Dan's first photo, you'll notice he TR'ing a pitch he's supposed to be leading in the movie. Nice technique still.
Fletch
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Feb 23, 2009 - 11:05pm PT
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Much as I love period Eastwood, I really hate this pic. This film was a major step backward from the Bergfilm of the 1920s and '30s. Neither the climbing nor the cinematography came close to matching up. Really sad-- a swing and a miss.
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Dapper Dan
climber
Menlo Park
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Feb 23, 2009 - 11:14pm PT
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so in your mind the film should have stayed true to a 50 year old genre from another continent ? how does that make any sense ?
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Feb 23, 2009 - 11:24pm PT
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"[S]o in your mind the film should have stayed true to a 50 year old genre from another continent ? how does that make any sense?"
No, but it should've at least met that bar for cinematography. But it didn't. It wasn't nearly as well staged or filmed as the best bergfilm of the 1920s and '30s, films done with far less money, way worse technology, and (theoretically) less technical expertise. It wasn't even nearly as good as the westerns of the same period.
Here's the punchline-- you don't need to have any familiarity with old Bergfilm to understand what a missed opportunity this move really was.
Seriously-- think about the comps-- Wild Bunch or Sergio Leone's trilogy or even Eastwood's directorial debut in High Plains Drifter. Think about how much better filmed those flicks are. Think about the drama and choreography of the action sequences. Then think about the comparable scenes from Eiger Sanction.
We accept/ed Eiger Sanction because we're Americans starved for climbing in cinema. No mid-70s European audience could ever have accepted a movie in which the Eigerwand represented some unimaginable goal. By the mid-70s it was nearly a trade route. No period Euro audience could ever've accepted a climbing film in which the hero "leads" a pitch with a visible top-rope.
It would've been like an American audience accepting a western movie in which the hero used a step-ladder to mount his horse.
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Dapper Dan
climber
Menlo Park
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Feb 23, 2009 - 11:26pm PT
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a classic beta session from one of the best climbing movies in the universe
I think this is how they did it before mountain project and supertopo
just look at a huge picture of the route
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rick d
climber
tucson, az
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Feb 24, 2009 - 12:07am PT
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"Anyone know what chimney route Clint is climbing here , this is the scene right before they climb the tower... "
near the hospital in Gouldings.
I can show you it....
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Feb 24, 2009 - 12:16am PT
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I'm still hurt and disappointed that George Kennedy turned out to be the villain. Remember how he drove that airplane out of the snow in the original Airport [with Dean Martin]?
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Fletcher
Trad climber
the campfire just a ways past Chris' Taco stand
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Feb 24, 2009 - 01:07am PT
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If you can't love George Kennedy after that Airport scene, there's something wrong with you. His words are something like, "Get outa that cockpit, lemme do it!" He jumps in the seat, and he's gunning the engines, rockin' it like we used to back in the day in New England when stuck in a snowbank... "C'MON YOU MOTHER!"
And he does it!
Kind of like how my dad used to drive (I could be makin' that last part up!).
Fletch
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Feb 24, 2009 - 01:11am PT
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"If you can't love George Kennedy after that Airport scene, there's something wrong with you."
Well, he's the villain, just like in "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot," so if you DO love him, you must be a Communist.
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
planet dogboy
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Feb 24, 2009 - 03:39am PT
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I read ES when I was like 13. Decided then and there that when I grew up I would be a climber, a secret agent assassin, live in an old church with the choir loft as my bedroom, be surrounded by Pissarro’s, and have lots of sex.
To date I have pulled off just one of the above – but I’m still working on it.
Me, I still often remember and quote the last words of the guy (the numb nut agent they sent in as a decoy) as he swallowed the microfilm – at which the bad guys soon gutted him from chin to belly button (and Ben Bowman pukes nearby). What was his name? Was this Wormwood? (It’s been now 30 years since I read it, and this moment from the novel just gets a small flyby in the film)
Anyway, this guys last thought is:
“Winners win” he thought to himself, then he died.
yeah, i’m a winner,
^,,^
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
concord, california
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Feb 24, 2009 - 11:39am PT
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check out this 3 photo sequence of an avalanche on the Eiger Nordwand taken Sept 08...
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