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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Horizontal traverse on an ice wall is made by first man chopping a ledge halfway up the wall, and then belayng the other two over to that point. From the ledge in this picture, the first man is now moving ahead, has driven a piton and, supported by that, is cautiously working his way across the ice face. He is belayed through a snapline and rope hung from the piton.--No Sh#t, a snapline! I've never seen one. Still haven't.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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If y'all haven't seen the documentary "Fire On The Mountain"* then stand
down and STFU! OK, just kidding, but there'll be no pudding until you do.
(Hint - better have a fresh hanky handy)
Fire On The Mountain
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jayzus! Don't sneak up on me like that...
neebee! I need bee a handkerchief. (Thought that was Chief, for a second...
Yeah, I was searching "Division, in order to place these LIFE pics, and I saw neebee's thread with neebee's posts and thought, gee.
So it turns out neither of the first two links here are good. At least one other isn't. APPARENTLY this one's good. I'm going.I'm a Dave Brower fan. Best single summer in the Sierra Nevada ever: 1934 with Hervey Voge. Awesome reading in the annals.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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When I guided out of Vail. One of our main places was along the highway to Leadville, were there was once a 10th mtn headquarters. The crag we used was the one they used. There were all sorts of slabs and foundations were their buildings stood during ww2
Wish I could remember the name of the ace, dang. There are roadside plaques there telling all about it.....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jay, there's a nice memorial there now at Ski Cooper which is the mountain
they trained on.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Neebee! Thanks for starting this great thread!
I grew up with 10th Mountain Division Vets as family friends in Ketchum Idaho in the 1950's-60's.
Tough as nails, but pleasant, folks who included Barney Bell, Eddie Bennet, & Nelson Bennet.
There were a lot more on the staff of the Sun Valley Ski School.
Turns out some of the 10th Mountain Vets heavily influenced the subsequent growth of skiing and climbing in our country.
Here's a link to one version of the story.
http://voices.yahoo.com/the-10th-mountain-division-boom-post-war-384375.html
Here's a list of some of those folks and their outdoor doings.
This is only a partial list of the men of the 10th Mountain Division who influenced skiing in post-war America:
Max Dercum, Larry Jump, Thor Groswold, and Dick Durrance formed Arapahoe Basin Inc. CO., in 1946.
Gordy Wren- managed Loveland Basin and then Steamboat Springs.
Barney McLean- ran Hot Sulphur Springs, Co.
Crosby Perry-Smith and Pop Sorenson went to Winter Park, CO.
Steve Knowlton and Leon Wilmott started Ski Broadmoor, CO.
Gerry Cunningham- opened Gerry's Mountain Sports, in Denver.
Merrill Hastings- published Skiing Magazine in Denver.
Monty Atwater- became America's premier avalanche expert.
Fritz Benedict- influential mountain architect who founded the 10th Mountain Division Memorial Hut System in Colorado.
Bil Dunaway- made the first ski descent of Mount Blanc in France on skis, then settled in Aspen Colorado, becoming editor of Skiing Magazine.
Toni Matt- world famous ski racer and instructor. First to go straight down the Headwall at Tuckerman's Ravine in the third Inferno race held in 1939. (He cut the old time in half).
David Brower- First Executive Director of the Sierra Club. Re-focused the club on the issue of preservation and made it into the world's most powerful environmental organization. Nominated three times for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Ed Link and Roe Duke Watson are credited with creating Crystal Mountain, WA.
Paul Petzolt- Brought the Outward Bound concept to the U.S. and subsequently founded the National Outdoor Leadership School.
Dick Stillman- 30-year career in the Forest Service, established and maintained the High Alpine Avalanche Research Station at Berthoud Pass, Colorado from 1950-63.
Grant Ford- Director of the National Ski Association (now USSA) and served three terms. In 1957, he was appointed Secretary of the National Ski Association's Olympic Ski Games Committee.
Benjamin Duke Jr.- Ben was elected to the Board of Directors of Vail Associates in 1966 and served for nearly 20 years.
Paul Duke- managed Breckinridge, CO. for many years.
Clif Taylor- Taught skiing at Aspen, Aspen Highlands, Mad River Glen, Loveland, and Winter Park . Created the Graduated Length Method of ski instruction.
John P. Litchfield - Started the Aspen Ski School where he became Co-Director. John was also an original investor in the Aspen Ski Company as well as the original owner and operator of the famous Red Onion Restaurant in Aspen.
Nelson Bennett- managed White Pass, WA.
Wilfred "Slim" Davis-devoted 40 years to the US Forest Service. He was an early innovator of ski area design, slope layout, avalanche control and ski area safety.
Curt Chase- an innovator: in 1946, he organized, trained and directed the Aspen Ski Patrol.
Steve Knowlton - a member of the US Olympic Ski Team (1948) and the FIS Ski Team (1950). From 1963-73, Steve formed Colorado Ski Country USA and became its first Director.
Gordon Wren- directed the Loveland Basin ski school and was manager of Steamboat, CO.
Ralph "Doc" Des Roches- was executive director of Ski Industries of America.
Alf Engen- directed the ski school at Alta, UT.
Luggi Foeger- directed the ski school at Badger Pass, CA.
Bill Healy- created Mt. Batchelor OR.
Nick Hock- associate publisher of Ski Magazine.
Dev Jennings- executive director of Ski New England.
Dave Judson- founded Otis Ridge, MA.
Dick May- managed Wildcat, NH.
Jack Murphy- founded Sugarbush, VT.
Bob Nordhaus- created Sandia Peak, NM.
Bud Phillips- directed the ski school at Mad River Glen, VT.
Percy Rideout- co-director of the Aspen Ski School.
Kerr Sparks- directed the ski school at Stowe, VT.
Thad Thorne- managed Attitash, NH.
Laverne Trepp- founded Pine Mountain, MI.
Jack Tweedy- V.P. and attorney for the Vail Corporation.[51]
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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I believe Jack Morehead was also in the 10th. He was a ranger in Yosemite, Everglades, Tetons and others, was Superintendent of Yosemite and was very high in NPS when he retired. Great guy. He and I used to climb in summer in the Valley, purposely take only a pint of water apiece so that we could really appreciate two consecutive beers in the old Degnan's Beer Garden at the Old village. Did the Arrow Tip together quite a way back.
Pat and Jack Pinnacles are named after them. Pat died some years ago. Jack lives in Morro Bay and is still remarkably active.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2012 - 03:40am PT
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hey there say, mouse... fritz... and fossil climber!
wow, thanks for sharing all this info... i loved learning about all this...
(mouse, will have to try to see the pics later...)
fritz, wow!!! lots of info, :)
and fossil climber, nice to hear the share about the man named jack and still being around and active...
happy to see this thread again, :)
thanks guys, :)
edit:
wow, just got booted off line, in the middle of all this,
wanted to say:
thank you to jaybro and reilly, too...
awww, and good eve to you mouse,just saw your post, that comes
after this, :)
i'm heading out now, to go sleep, was busy with
phone calls, earlier from friend...
no taco time tonight, just a 'drop in' fast...
:)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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You are surely welcome, miss.
All the others, too.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
"If you choose to go, no one may follow, that path is for your steps alone...
If I knew the way, I would take you there."
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2012 - 04:02am PT
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hey there say, before i sign off for the night...
i just saw more BACK on the thread...
thanks to cintune.. and sooo many more, as well for some
more neat new info here...
thanks so much!!!
these guy were really something to learn about...
well, night all...
edit:
will also check out the movie link, documentary...
anyone know more about it...
is it good and solid, and not just 'movie-ish for sake of movie hype'
thanks, will back later, for more info on that...
oh my, waiting though dial up for one more edit:
just read from a post back a it, that the movie is credible,
and had all the real men in it, as documentaries should, :)
and--mouse, the mag-PICTURES did load by now... really great photo stuff
there, thanks for sharing their pics...
okay--GOT to get to sleep now... :))
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2012 - 04:17am PT
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hey there say, mouse...
wow, MORE links, and, as to the movie...
okayyyyyyyyyy, well, self-decipline wins-out over
curiousity, tonight...
will check this all tomorrow, :))
god bless and good eve/night to all...
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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"Send up all the litter teams you can get!"
"Send up all the litter teams you can get!"
"Send up all the litter teams you can get!"
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 5, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
When I guided out of Vail. One of our main places was along the highway to Leadville, were there was once a 10th mtn headquarters. The crag we used was the one they used. There were all sorts of slabs and foundations were their buildings stood during ww2
Wish I could remember the name of the ace, dang. There are roadside plaques there telling all about it.....
Camp Hale, my Grandpa trained there.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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As I was reading this, and looking at the list of guys who did great things after Europe, I can't help but think of the thousands that are not listed....they went on to live more humble lives, or they didn't come back.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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RIP, Grandpa.
I placed his urn in the ground this spring. He is deeply missed.
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stonefly
Social climber
Alameda, California
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Nov 17, 2012 - 11:47am PT
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10th Mountain Vet at Glen's 100th Party
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sbailey2
climber
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
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Hello, all; My Grandfather was in the 10th Mountain Division, and served with David Brower at Seneca Rocks, and again in Italy. He never talked about the war, but through research I've been able to trace his activities pretty accurately. He was commander of L Company, 86th Regiment until April 29, 1945 when an 88mm round exploded in a tunnel full of troops (and one of them was his Battalion CO). At that point he became commander of 3rd Bn-86th. It was in this capacity that he worked alongside of Dave Brower.
My Grandfather (Everett Bailey) is 95 and still living, though he really doesn't remember anything anymore.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2013 - 05:59am PT
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hey there say, sbailey2... i was just looking for this thread, and i saw
it had a NEW post...
oh my, VERY SORRY i missed this post...
thank you for sharing... i have great respect for what all these 'old timers' went through...
thank you for sharing...
wow, a whole year ago, and i missed it...
is your grandfather still alive now, or not...
god bless to you, and once again: thanks for sharing...
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