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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Aug 19, 2007 - 01:03pm PT
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guys, lemme know if it needs anything else thanks.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 19, 2007 - 02:34pm PT
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Marvellous detective work, Smithers'! I've recently been working on some family photos, trying to figure out who/when/where. Pretty intriguing stuff.
A quick e-mail to the American Alpine Club librarian on Monday morning may answer all remaining questions. (Edit: Although that wouldn't be nearly as much fun, and they might not have it right either.)
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Aug 19, 2007 - 06:31pm PT
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ok - Image 2 draft two is up for review - I'll start #3
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jstan
climber
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Aug 19, 2007 - 06:46pm PT
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Too bad we can't see what is on 1C/2H's tee shirt.
2E will be a problem
Only problem in p3 is the fellow behind Burke with the tilted head.
Closest resemblance is to Clevenger
Then 4 has three
not Osius
busy shirt( not Miller in his new tie dye)
at 7 o'clock from the Yagers
p1 still has a really tough problem. Who is that cut out of the picture just to the right of Frost? Eh? Looks like a her to me.
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john hansen
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2007 - 07:01pm PT
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Hey Jstan the cutoff head to the right of frost is Kim Schmit,s
I can see a bit more of him in the photo in the 2000 journal
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jstan
climber
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Aug 19, 2007 - 07:09pm PT
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Another garment change. The temperature must have been changing.
Results are coming together pretty well. Other than that I think I am beginning to get the drift of things here. Many thinks are becoming clearer.
Thanks
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Aug 19, 2007 - 07:10pm PT
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thanks Ken
Russ Mitrovich
Cedar Wright
and the correct spelling of the younger Frost's first name (darn I forgot! sorry)
thanks
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Aug 19, 2007 - 07:12pm PT
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Russ and Cedar.
Ken
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Aug 19, 2007 - 08:27pm PT
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Image 3 draft 1 -
guys, sorry about all the unknowns and question marks - thought it might be easier to do it this way and be sure than to sift through the thread and sorta piece it together
please post your info for edits and errors - thanks
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 19, 2007 - 08:41pm PT
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3B maybe Ed Samson?
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N0_ONE
Social climber
Utah
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Aug 19, 2007 - 09:57pm PT
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A. Crowley to the left of T. O'Neal?
I thought that was Chongo.
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N0_ONE
Social climber
Utah
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Aug 19, 2007 - 10:25pm PT
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AC, is the joke on me, (your really Chongo and everybody else knows that) or were you just playing around?
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Aug 19, 2007 - 10:28pm PT
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Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Aug 19, 2007 - 11:11pm PT
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John H., yes Layton of course... how about Jeff Foote...
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Maysho
climber
Truckee, CA
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Aug 20, 2007 - 01:46am PT
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Kevin,
RD died while climbing on Makalu, possibly a heart attack. He was a great guy I used to see often when I lived in Berkeley.
Peter
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jstan
climber
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Aug 20, 2007 - 02:08am PT
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Very early on Mayfield had suggested 3c is Scott Stowe.
Very sorry to hear about RD. Whatever project one had, RD was always ready to provide assistance and enthusiasm.
Now that Chongo is back I no longer get the drift of things. Ah well. Say la Vee.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Aug 20, 2007 - 10:57am PT
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thanks guys - I'll make some edits later this week B back Wed pm.
(gotta go hug a tree)
Ray :)
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Aug 20, 2007 - 01:02pm PT
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Hi Kevin,
Was RD a yoga instructor in the Bay Area and close to the Bircheffs? I remeber the name, but I am having a tough time placing him.
For those who are interested in this gathering, it was filmed and then narrated by Tom Brokow. Vertical Frontier--DVD and Yosemite Celebration--VHS
I plan to re-watch the DVD and watch for the first time the longer VHS (if I can find a machine) and pick out all the folks in these pictures.
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Aug 20, 2007 - 01:59pm PT
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Pat, I see that you have taken exception to my flip response to John Hansen’s comment about Chuck looking serene.
As you know, Chuck had lots of interests and was very cultivated, in the classic sense. And, he was very much a regular guy. We spent more time talking about classical music and literature and writing than anything else, except maybe beautiful women. Chuck had a record collection—all classical, as far as I remember—that covered an entire wall. I think he stored them at his parent’s house when he was not living somewhere. We didn’t talk about one of his hobbies—fixing his VW--because I had lost interest after I rebuilt the engines of all my early VWs and then sold my station wagon to Chuck, after which he took up engine rebuilding and then took me to task for my lousy work. We also rarely talked about climbing, except when he and Steve were working on Ascent.
We shared many of the same tastes in beautiful women and could openly express envy at the other’s success. Chuck was very successful. As a great wordsmith, I always enjoyed Chuck’s descriptions of my girl friends. We were pretty close.
Chuck was also a great drinker. Chuck was lucid long after he couldn’t see straight or walk (and everyone else was passed out), and his personality stayed the same even if he got loud. Drinking probably did him more harm in his life than was good for him. But, he controlled it well enough and unlike some other climbers who drank too much, he was able to keep its negative effects limited. At the Camp 4 Celebration, Chuck was not on the main stage for the speechifying—it’s on the DVD—and Royal commented on his absence, referring to the drinking the evening before. Maybe Chuck had just had enough of the get together or maybe a huge hangover (I don't know--I was not there), but personally, I hope that it arose because he had been too successful. Chuck always had his own priorities straight.
My comment in response to John had a very straight forward intent. Chuck only asked one thing of the climbing community. He did not want to be deified in any degree: in his words “I don’t like it and it is not good for me.”
As a friend, I intend to stick by that request. Chuck would be very offended by the "Sainthood" that has been bestowed on him.
Best, Roger
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