POLL: should political ranting be allowed on the SuperTopo forum?

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Demented

climber

Oct 22, 2004 - 11:42am PT

Hey Michelle-

“The summer heat has brought out a new and disturbing trend here in the High Desert... and elsewhere I'd assume. I'm talking about young and not so shapely ladies running the mound hugging pants, shortie shirt with a bad slogan on it (like "porn star"), a couple of muddy prison worthy tatoos, and a GIANT AWNING-LIKE BEER GUT hanging out!!! WTF is this trend? Do they get up in the morning and say "man, this will look gooood"? ….. is pretty funny. Thanks for reminding me .. .

Almost as good was bringmebeers' classic post “"bouldering chicks are pretty cool though. they have that mattress on their back...all you need to do is push them over and they're ready to go."

10b4me

Trad climber

Where Fair Oaks meets Altadena

Oct 22, 2004 - 06:50pm PT

if we didn't have differing opinions, we would all be gym climbers.

so true!

Flash

Ice climber

Oct 23, 2004 - 12:10am PT

Oh shit! We are being invaded by the rc.com crowd.

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Marin Hot Tub Country

Oct 23, 2004 - 12:20am PT

Probably because there aren't any Nanny-Mods to keep them in line?

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Marin Hot Tub Country

Oct 23, 2004 - 03:33pm PT

4393 since Feb 2003 to be exact. That's gotta be the most posts in the shortest amount of time -- by a long shot.

No wonder he's all butt-hurt.

Flash

Ice climber

Oct 23, 2004 - 06:45pm PT

"No wonder he's all butt-hurt."

LOL!

Donny Quijote

Boulder climber

Boulder F'n CO

Oct 25, 2004 - 04:47pm PT

"...everyone loves Donny/Donnie/Paco/Pete/Jody."

Well...at least I still love me.

Roger Breedlove

Trad climber

Cleveland Heights, Ohio

Oct 26, 2004 - 08:44am PT

Chris:

I notice that there is a lot of self and group censorship on ST. Eventually people move on, especially when someone posts a good trip report. Also, it is easy enough to skip to treads that one does not want to get riled up about.

Best, Roger

ps: Jody, are you a blockhead, or what?

TW#T

Gym climber

san diego, ca

Oct 26, 2004 - 12:02pm PT

Yo Michelle,
Great post - just kidding. your and you're are two totally different words. your denoting possession, and you're meaning you are. Try again CHIMP!.....back to taking online English classes for college credit

Michelle

Gym climber

Marklar

Nov 3, 2004 - 03:48pm PT

uh, TW#T, after careful review of my post, I have come to the conclusion that you are an idiot. However, even idiots can be right sometimes. unfortunately, this isn't one of those times for you. sorry dude. I may not have used appropriate punctuation. The quote should have read:

TW#T, your self-serving, sexist slander totally suits the intimate atmosphere around here and...

My apologies for the confusion.

Mungeclimber

Social climber

N. California

Nov 3, 2004 - 05:42pm PT

Search engine filter? Not sure how to implement given the similarity of language with

Bush is a tard.

And...

This climb was put up by a tard.

I lean toward leaving it alone. Post elections it will mellow out, or burn even brighter given the current administration has been relected; Tard!

Bucky

Trad climber

Knoxville, Tn

Nov 3, 2004 - 06:22pm PT

Why not have a seperate forum for other things besides climbing?

David Nelson

climber

San Francisco

Nov 13, 2004 - 01:43pm PT

Free expression is fine and dandy, but when the site becomes more of a place for childish rants than a place for climbing discussion, the membership will drift to a place with more climbing and less rants. This is a description of reality, not a wish for the future. The site owners have to decide what they want. After all, they are paying the bills and it is their creative product. Although site users like me contribute to the overall work product, and in some sense are "owners", the site is owned by the ones who created it and pay for it.

Editing all posts is too time consuming, and so is not practical. You can state the purpose of the site and acceptable posting practices. Killing threads that detract from the site's stated purpose is OK, as long as it is posted that that is what you are going to do. Denying posting priviledges to consistent violators may be required. When the community of users agrees with and supports a policy, it will work.

My personal preference: keep the rants down. A few friendly insults to fellow climbers is part of the scene. Purely personal attacks and posts on topics divorced from climbing should be avoided. Where to draw the line? Sometimes it is hard. Ecology is political but part of climbing.

But I think we all have seen too much political BS and personal hazing on this site, and are getting tired of it. It will happen that some will migrate to a site that has more climbing and less BS if it continues, merely out of a desire to spend our limited time learning about climbing, not out of a desire to squelch the free expression of opinion.

Mountain Man

Trad climber

Outer Space

Nov 15, 2004 - 12:59am PT

It seems the political talk is calming down, but personal attacks are hot . Freedom seems to be the best approach, unless people get stuck on disagreeable flaming.

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Marin Hot Tub Country

Nov 16, 2004 - 11:32am PT

I agree 100%.

The last thing the world needs is more nanny-mods.

nature

climber

Flagstaff, AZ

Nov 16, 2004 - 06:17pm PT

Two categories

climbing
rants

nuf said

Hardman Knott

Gym climber

Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca

Sep 26, 2006 - 01:05pm PT

I figured this would be a good time for a bump. I re-read my posts above from 2 years ago,
and I think they're as relevant as ever. The bottom line is that every time Chris has asked
people to post more climbing stuff, the focus––however briefly––would shift more on-topic.

I will say it again and again and again: It really is just a handful of people posting the vast
majority of OT stuff. And it would be much much easier in the long run to warn or ban
them than it would to create and manage a split forum.