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Brian
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Cali
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Mar 30, 2007 - 06:20pm PT
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Yes, too bad about the "Hollywood" ending. That form usually pisses me off.
Shawshank Redemption had another terrible ending--should have ended when Morgan Freeman breaks parole, as the point of that movie was the unconquerable nature of hope (not, it seems to me, that life has happy endings).
I remember watching Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon in the art-house pre-popular explosion and thinking, when the younger woman is riding back with the antidote to the poision, "if she makes it back in time, saves him, and everything wraps up nice," I'm gonna puke. One of the great thing about that movie is that there is NOT a Hollywood ending--unrequited love, the hero dies, the villan is victorious in a sense, some bad folks go unpunished, etc. Real life does not have a Hollywood ending.
Brian
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 30, 2007 - 06:22pm PT
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"THAT'S THE SPIRIT!!"
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robmo
Gym climber
San Francisco
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Mar 30, 2007 - 06:22pm PT
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A bit of trivia about the original ending. That is left-over film from the fly-over footage at the beginning of the Shining.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Mar 30, 2007 - 06:26pm PT
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Another aspect about BR, is the religious overtones at the very end. I read an essay years ago, and the writer brought out the theme of the crucifixion of Christ and how Roy put the nail through his hand, and at the end died yet at that very moment loved life so much as to allow the dove to live on, and forgave Decker, and let him look into his soul to see just for a moment who he really was. He just wanted to live. Kind of a spirit returning to heaven kind of scene, or life being born anew, or dying so that others may live.
There are all kinds of angles to this movie . . . deep, deep powerful stuff. Yea, I’ll have to watch it again soon too.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 30, 2007 - 06:39pm PT
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Rutger Hauer - recent
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Daryl Hannah as Pris
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L
climber
The Rebel L Gang
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Mar 30, 2007 - 06:49pm PT
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Dinner and a Movie at Dirtbag's House Tonight!
"An Inconvenient Blader Runner Truth"
8:30pm
Dinner Includes:
Mercury-filled toro sushi
Chinese noodles with umbrella
2-week old Dead Duck soup
Replicant snake steak
BYOB
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dirtbag
climber
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Mar 30, 2007 - 06:53pm PT
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It's a date!
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Mar 30, 2007 - 06:57pm PT
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Yeah, the VO (marlowe-esque) version is the sh#t.
But, the part that makes that first quote Largo mentioned work, imho, is the "through YOUR eyes," segment.
"..." in the OP.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Mar 30, 2007 - 06:58pm PT
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IF you want to talk religious overtones in Blade Runner, besides the obvious nail in hand and the release of the bird repping Roy's soul, well, back to the book again, there is a lot more made of religion, there was an important religion in the book, but the movie left out almost all of that for some reason.
Rumor has it that Dick did not live to see the final production, but he got to see bits during filming and really liked what he saw.
The movie is really about racism, or more broadly, discrimination.
BUt I hate shi-shi fru-fru artsy fartsy talk-- H3LL, Blade Runner is just Efffing great sci-fi. IT looked good (camera and lighting and sets), it had great action, great casting, and a great script. One sci fi movie they didn't Fvck Up, LOL.
Um, as long as we are quoting memorable lines from Blade Runner: "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."
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L
climber
The Rebel L Gang
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:00pm PT
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Now that would be fun, wouldn't it? Get a bunch of us in one place to watch that thing and drive each other crazy with our observations during the movie. hee-hee-hee!
I'm going to watch it tonight.
Wish I had the original "goopy-Brian-hates-hollywood-endings" one...have to settle for the gloomy one instead. :-(
C'est la vie.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:01pm PT
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Phillip k Dick novels will never have the same impact as movies as they do as books, Try as they keep doing. But, those flicks do give his works a bigger audience, and that is a good thing.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:04pm PT
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not to deviate from a great topic, bending it I suppose...
any Taxi Driver fans in the house?
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wootles
climber
Gamma Quadrant
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:10pm PT
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SOoooooo... In an effort to relate this to climbing (not that it has to)... Who has done the climb The Replicant?
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:11pm PT
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As it's Friday night, maybe we should see Rocky Horror instead. Maybe not as deep as Blade Runner, but there are some things to think about from it, and it's a hoot.
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jeff_m
climber
Spice World
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:13pm PT
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Sam Lowry: "How are the twins?"
Jack Lint: "Triplets!"
Sam Lowry: "My how time flies..."
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:13pm PT
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i watch it once a month, and named one of my favirite roof problems here in flagstaff "travis bickle".
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:15pm PT
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cool bvb -
here's our man now...
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:17pm PT
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"Are you talking to me?
Are you talking to me??
Are YOU... talking to ME???
Well I'm the only one here."
Travis Bickel!!!!
Taxi Driver, the movie that inspired John Hinkley Jr. Gotta love Deniro in that one, back when he played characters that were so different from one movie to the next that you had to look twice to know it was him.
Come to think of it, sometimes I get the impression that there are a lot of Travis Bickel wannabes on ST, LOL.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 30, 2007 - 07:19pm PT
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2007 - 07:39pm PT
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Interesting replies . . .
I think the whole thing boils down to - "All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain . . ."
That's the existential question of the ages, that our we and our experience is temporary, and that some day all will be forgotten, washed away, like tears in rain. Out task on this earth is to resolve this basic fact within ourselves. Paradoxically, I believe we have to transcend ourselves to ever make any progress on this whopper.
JL
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