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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Terry, You've had an interesting life, and from what I gather your still getting after it. I still won't forget my f---up on the Center Route in the Winds.
For what it's worth my score is 26 on the original list, on yours very low.
I'll be in London next week doing research on a future book- not about climbing.
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO & Bend, OR
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The title of the book is "Murder Unpunished: How the Aryan Brotherhood Murdered Waymond Small and Got Away with It." It's a "true crime" about a gang murder in 1977 inside Arizona State Prison, but with a twist: instead of answering the usual question of "who done it?", this book answers "how did they get away with it." You can buy a used copy on Amazon for peanuts.
Jim Donini states with pride his accomplishments have all been made without a single broken bone.
Getting innocent people "off" is easy "Perry Mason" stuff. My client was guilty. Don't worry, he got his. Read the book.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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TWP, yes that is a list of things that are worth being proud of having accomplished & survived.
O, it is derived from some fool propaganda generated & spread by the tool of the threat to our sort of free society?
I wish I hadn't played
Tradman, I'm sorry that you took anything I've said personally.
I love seeing what you are up to & my life is richer for your sharing your adventures.
I don't have facebook
I do not have any other social media exposure, some of what I was going off about was the double edge of the sword.
I think that this modern thing of constantly "sharing" comparing ones achievements and activities worthiness is a form of vanity &
boastful show-boating.
(again;not directed at anyone, & I live vicariously thru the climbing postings here there & on youtube etc.)
To some it is harmless to many it is undermining self-satisfaction & so causing unrecognized depression, ruining lives.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2019 - 02:04pm PT
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Gnome. not sure where your passive aggressive crap is coming from. You bash my post and then you brag and hint at your own superiority. I saw a simeler list on FB that I thought was slanted towards people who watched a lot of TV and did not really have much adventure in their lifes. I spit that thing out in a few min without really thinking too hard or includeing many adventures. Bummed that it came across as macho bragging. I was a PK (preachers kid) anyone familiar with that would know that you get a lot of sh#t for being a PK when you are growing up... Many of us compensate for that by doing a lot of stupid sh#t to try and fit in. I enjoyed TWPs list and many of the other responses. I get that many folks are too humble to play and respect that. I also regret positing the thing in the first place though some of the responses are pretty cool and would love to hear the back stories.
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO & Bend, OR
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tradman.
Thanks for posting this thread. It has stimulated a tremendous amount of thought and introspection on my part about the meaning we give to our life. Everyone has a story to tell. We can learn from them all. We all have our own "crosses to bear." Being a preacher's son is one such cross.
So many thanks! No reason for regrets my friend.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2019 - 03:45pm PT
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Thanks TWP. you are in my book several times. Send me your address to my photo website email and I will mail you one. It was so much fun meeting you guys last summer. I really hope to make it again this year but might not be able to afford it??? PS I wish I had put more thought into my op..
Have you ever helped save a life is one that should have made it...
Have you ever bought a meal for a homeless person... many more
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2019 - 03:52pm PT
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PS. I was stoked you hooked your tag line to Brians harness and came up that climb. Pss glad the tag line worked ;)
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TwistedCrank
climber
Released into general population, Idaho
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I was told that there was not going to be any math on this test.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 20, 2019 - 12:54am PT
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nobody even mentioned delivering ghetto babies while standing aside from the meleee and the heyDailey day of Chicago '68 dnc riot action to do the immediate work of the people, the lifesaving help work?
no one mentions lifesaving clearing the impacted bowels of a long-lost into dementia loved one in poor people elder care and then being zen enough to not go full postal on the board of profiteers? what a bunch of daisies.
no one mentions that s. price MP thread on humility and the imposibility of recognizing and honoring the invisible battles that all peoples with whom we interact face and fight in daily?
weak list tradman. ;-) you too NutAgain. ;-)
yo Nut! wanna come do an outfitted GC oar trip in August? should be fairly cheap overall as far as outfitters go. you would be the STRANGEr though, :-) you can ride on my rig.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 20, 2019 - 01:43pm PT
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How about us making a new list, then start a new thread?
My contributions:
Physically avoided death - i.e. dodged a falling boulder
Committed a felony
Illegally crossed US border
A point for each - Coke, acid, mushrooms, crack, meth & heroin
Been to a brothel
Been in a three way.
Enjoyed a hat-trick weekend.
Climbed a 14er.
Climber a 14er via technical route
Done a multi-day climb
Slept on a glacier
Skydiving
BASE jump
Climb radio tower
Flown a plane
Taken a 30 foot whipper
Broken a bone
Had major surgery
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 20, 2019 - 01:46pm PT
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I believe that is known as the velvet hat trick and it's really more of an IAD thing. For some of us. ;-)
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Feb 20, 2019 - 01:56pm PT
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Physically avoided death - i.e. dodged a falling boulder yes, various
Committed a felony no
Illegally crossed US border no, but several other borders
A point for each - Coke, acid, mushrooms, crack, meth & heroin 2 & 3 and some others
Been to a brothel yes
Been in a three way. yes
Enjoyed a hat-trick weekend. **depends what you mean....
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Climbed a 14er. **yes but not a certified US 14er
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Climber a 14er via technical route yes
Done a multi-day climb yes
Slept on a glacier dear lord yes
Skydiving sort of
BASE jump no
Climb radio tower yes
Flown a plane no
Taken a 30 foot whipper yes
Broken a bone yes but wasnt one of mine
Had major surgery no
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 20, 2019 - 03:24pm PT
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have you ever..
1.Saved a life..
2. Spent significant time with a person going through the process of dying.
3. Held a dead pet until it got cold and stiff (takes about 6 or 7 hours)
4.Committed random acts of kindness.
5.Been a vegetarian for over 5 years.
6. Given someone you love flowers.
7.Been sober for over a decade. (after whatever age you started getting high and drunk)
8.Wrestled a pig.
9. Given a homeless person blankets and clothing.
10.Bought a homeless person dinner.
11. Shared a jug of red wine with Ed Abby in a box canyon campsite.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Feb 20, 2019 - 04:48pm PT
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1.Saved a life.. yes
2. Spent significant time with a person going through the process of dying yes, inc quite recently and currently
3. Held a dead pet until it got cold and stiff (takes about 6 or 7 hours) just the first half
4.Committed random acts of kindness no, they werent random at all
5.Been a vegetarian for over 5 years no
6. Given someone you love flowers yes, but was a while back and reminds me its time again
7.Been sober for over a decade (after whatever age you started getting high and drunk) very occasional drink, but lets say booze hasnt affected my day to day
8.Wrestled a pig no, but i fended off a wallaby recently
9. Given a homeless person blankets and clothing would a pair of baturas substitute?
10.Bought a homeless person dinner brunch?
11. Shared a jug of red wine with Ed Abby in a box canyon campsite no but ive had a bath with Will gadd
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 20, 2019 - 05:01pm PT
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1.Saved a life.. yes
2. Spent significant time with a person going through the process of dying yes
3. Held a dead pet until it got cold and stiff (takes about 6 or 7 hours) no
4.Committed random acts of kindness I don’t brag about being charitable
5.Been a vegetarian for over 5 years no
6. Given someone you love flowers A sad commentary if you think this is noteworthy
7.Been sober for over a decade (after whatever age you started getting high and drunk)
a couple of beers a week is a problem?
8.Wrestled a pig she was zaftig, but far from porcine
9. Given a homeless person blankets and clothing would a pair of baturas substitute? enough with yer self-congratulatory encomium!
10.Bought a homeless person dinner brunch?
3 out of 11 questions about yer 1st world guilt?
11. Shared a jug of red wine with Ed Abby in a box canyon campsite no, but I can spell his name and I have shared a number of pitchers with Warren Harding and I’ve spooned with Jim Wickwire on a winter bivy.
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Chaz
Trad climber
Straight Outta Crafton
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Feb 20, 2019 - 05:15pm PT
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12. Ever seen 96 women, all laying on their faces?
Yeah, once.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 20, 2019 - 05:23pm PT
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wow. this is a tough fcking crowd. My first list was supposed to be fun and I got the sh#t beat out of me over it. this list was supposed kind and I get the sh#t beat out of me. nice fcking bunch you are...
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skywalker1
Trad climber
co
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Feb 20, 2019 - 06:20pm PT
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I would say that it's a fun thread.
1. Have you ever had sex on a climb?
Sorta but more in the pouring rain at the top.
2. What was #2? I got hung up on #1.
I can continue but its raining again....
Cheers!
S....
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 20, 2019 - 06:33pm PT
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wow. this is a tough fcking crowd. My first list was supposed to be fun and I got the sh#t beat out of me over it. this list was supposed kind and I get the sh#t beat out of me. nice fcking bunch you are...
Yeah, this is a tough crowd. Suck it up, buttercup. Quit being such a thin-skinned little nancy boy. Climbin' ain't fer pussies.
No.
Wait.
It's not the 80s anymore. Right?
I forgot. That kind of talk is no longer acceptable... or even tolerated. Gettin' old ain't fer pussies.
Just kidding. Nice idea for an OP. I give it a solid B. Good effort. Everybody's a critic these days. Just roll with it.
Oh yeah - Hat trick - not the same as velvet hat trick.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 21, 2019 - 03:24am PT
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I must be pretty naïve because I have no clue what a hat trick is outside of hockey and not Shure I want to know what a velvet hat trick is...
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