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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 28, 2017 - 08:48am PT
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Z, yer data is old. Nationwide fatalities were up 5.5% last year, although the article I read
lays a lot of that on Millennials and their texting while driving. A study showed that they also
think it's OK to speed in school zones!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 08:50am PT
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I stated what year the data is from (the 2013 annual coroner's report). I don't get paid for doing this Reilly. You want more current data go look it up.
Notice that the claims made above do not include any type of evidence or references to evidence. The CHP told Jody? Lot O' Problems right there.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 08:53am PT
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I interpret SS as raising money first.
...some of the money in the SS fund comes from deductions taken out of the paychecks of people who are using SS numbers which are not assigned to that person. The people using such numbers will never receive SS benefits.
Some of those people using unrelated SS numbers are white men hiding from their child support bills, or white men who have a felony conviction but don't want that detail to come out while working their white collar job.... I'm not including a reference, so feel free to say I am lying. To get it out of the way, I'll pre-respond to your "liar" by calling you "a fool."
Immigration is a complex issue - who knew!? I don't doubt Donald Trump will be saying something similar if he survives The Russian Inquisition, which he very well may.
You all who think it is cut and dry (get em out!) surely must be able to acknowledge there are going to be unintended consequences if the sweeps become effective, no? Do you think those things have really been considered by the admin? I have the feeling, not.
Who is going to stand on the lines at the chicken/pork/beef processing plants and do that work? THOSE are the jobs that Trump (probably doesn't even realize he) is promising.
DO you think Mister White Guy is going to do that work for minimum wage? If you are so sire about that, here is a video which shows the VERY BEST scenario at a pork processing plant. It features Temple Grandin, whose name some will recognize at an extremely accomplished woman who happens to also be on the Autism Spectrum, which has enabled her to better understand animal behavior and cognition. Her work has been to help animal processing plants develop and implement humane practices. Of course, when Trump is "done" whi his making America great again, people like Grandin will be left to fend for themsleves in their educating years, so we will likely lose this portion of the population who betters the world. But the good news is that the stupid animal welfare rules are also going to be eliminated in the great-making,as well, so it won't really matter then, will it....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsEbvwMipJI&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLsEbvwMipJI&has_verified=1
You'll notice that a good majority of the workers in the TOP NOTCH plant have brown skin.(Brown people, stealing our jobs!!!!).
You also are probably smart enough to know that this, for the camera, best available site is not the majority of plants. If you clicked the link and are in Youtube, why not take a walk around and look at some of the more horrific animal processing plant videos. I assure you, they are available.
Why? Because those are the plants that absolutely are using employees who will be swept away if the current wave is effective. THOSE are the places where Mister White Guy is going to be desperately needed.
Although.....I suppose.....we could make those people who want "welfare" work in those places. Hey - what a great idea! The government can subsidize the plants, so the added cost of "employing US citizens" is not too big a burden! Get those welfare queens a one-way bus ticket for them and their kids to PorkPlace, since the slaughterhouses no longer are within urban areas. The men can be hired as Supervisors! Since men need to make more money than women, and all....
Sometimes I really think people live in their own little world and never bother to do much more than peak behind outside through a curtained window.
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John M
climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 08:54am PT
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Is that a high school called "The Bathrooms"???
Watch it there now. I grew up in that town. Los Banos actually means.. The Baths. It got the name from a spring in the area where travelers would stop to bathe.
But yep.. its a hick town. I learned to water ski in the canals there. Heh heh. It was a one trick show. Tie rope to truck. Swim to other side of the canal. Hit it and you better pop up and make that first turn or you were eating gravel.
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c wilmot
climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 08:57am PT
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It's worth noting "happie" that your racist rant left out white women...throwing stones from a glass van?
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gunsmoke
Mountain climber
Clackamas, Oregon
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Feb 28, 2017 - 08:58am PT
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Locker, are you just posting stuff to advance your own point or agenda, or do you have authentic interest in expanding your knowledge or views? The speed of your reply was insufficient to read the article I referenced. But to take one section (out of many) to support my claim:
A study by the Highway Safety Research Center at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, based on information from law enforcement agencies, revealed Hispanic drivers involved in motor vehicle crashes are more likely to be intoxicated than members of other ethnic and racial groups. The report states that 7.04 percent of Hispanic drivers involved in crashes in North Carolina were intoxicated, compared with 4.87 percent of Native Americans, 2.82 percent of whites, and 2.28 percent of blacks. Hispanics, who account for 18 percent of drunken-driving arrests, make up less than seven percent of the Tarheel State’s population.
I didn't claim that Hispanics drink more. I claimed that they drive drunk more, an assertion supported by facts.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 09:00am PT
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Thesocialcontract.com was cited above.
Its publisher-social contract press-has been described as a hate group by the southern poverty law center. So, consider the source.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 28, 2017 - 09:05am PT
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gunsmoke, I guess yer new here and don't know that inconvenient facts aren't tolerated here.
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gunsmoke
Mountain climber
Clackamas, Oregon
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Feb 28, 2017 - 09:10am PT
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Me bad.
Think I'll go back to just climbing threads. Sigh.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Feb 28, 2017 - 09:10am PT
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Thesocialcontract.com was cited above.
Its publisher-social contract press-has been described as a hate group by the southern poverty law center. So, consider the source.
gunsmoke's source...VVV
The Social Contract Press (TSCP) routinely publishes race-baiting articles penned by white nationalists. The press is a program of U.S. Inc, the foundation created by John Tanton, the racist founder and principal ideologue of the modern nativist movement. TSCP puts an academic veneer of legitimacy over what are essentially racist arguments about the inferiority of today's immigrants.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/social-contract-press
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 09:19am PT
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Last time I looked North Carolina is way on the other side of the Untied States from California.
SD County 2014. You get the drill. Go look up the year, extract the graph, put it on the ST page.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 28, 2017 - 09:44am PT
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So let's see, Gunsmoke cites a claim and provides a privately sourced article (which appears to cite other private internet opinion articles as sources) as support. Locker cites and claim and offers a substantive government study that refutes Gunsmoke's claim, and Gunsmoke gets angry at Locker and contends he's making up stuff. Priceless.
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jstan
climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 09:49am PT
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The RACIST calling someone else a racist.
Cosmic is advancing a concept I see so often I call it "Stannard's first law."
People accuse others only of acts they themselves are already doing.
This shows up most clearly in politics.
People consider themselves to be normal. So others will be doing what we ourselves are doing.
This is natural behavior.
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c wilmot
climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 09:58am PT
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The study locker cited does not refute the claim that hispanics drive drunk at higher rates
The study he cited showed hispanics abstained from drinking alcohol at higher rates. when it got to drinking three or more drinks a day-a level that could result being legally drunk while driving- it showed hispanics consume three or more drinks a day at higher rates than whites. Of corse that still does not prove hispanics drive drunk more frequently.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Feb 28, 2017 - 09:59am PT
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We fight over the same thing we've fought over for thousands of years; Land, religion, politics, borders, ethnicity, race, sex, wealth, jobs, education, power, and resources.
It is such a waste. And now our great democracy isn't looking so great anymore.
Leave the emigrants alone.
Space, the final frontier...
People say you can't go to space because we're not solving the problems of the earth first.
People haven't budged on any of those issues for years, stalwartly stuck in a rut.
Every time we go to space and challenge ourselves to do something technically and scientifically harder we have advanced progress for humanity.
Unless we are willing to take the risks to the do the bold hard work of exploration,
to endure the unendurable, we will never find peace
We find peace by attaining the unattainable and/or ultimately upon the extinction of humanity.
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gunsmoke
Mountain climber
Clackamas, Oregon
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Feb 28, 2017 - 10:02am PT
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Try this from the NHTSA
https://www.nhtsa.gov/document/special-report-raceethnicity-and-impaired-driving
The report finds "There is clear evidence about the existence of disparities in the involvement of racial and ethnic groups in alcohol-impaired driving crashes." (Page 12)
However, their statistics do no support nearly as large of claim as that cited by TheSocialContract.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Feb 28, 2017 - 10:09am PT
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Another useless thread.
The usual mass of of mind numbed robots spewing identical preprogrammed talking points against a minority of self deterministic rationalists.
Gee, I wonder will it will lead.
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jstan
climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 10:24am PT
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A lifelong friend tells me the fact there is a huge difference between the rate of technological change and our inability to obtain societal change, has him worried.
Where is this taking us?
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Feb 28, 2017 - 10:40am PT
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White men can't jump and Latinos have better hair...
Sticks in some peoples craw.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 10:44am PT
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4) Illegal aliens in San Diego County are responsible for more than half of all alcohol related fatal traffic accidents. You can't get the actual stat, because they are "protecting the hispanic community" instead of protecting the people they kill, but the California CHP does acknowledge that it is more than half of all alcohol related deaths.
Edbannister made the above spurious and unverifiable claim, asserting (without identifing who they are) that the information is being suppressed.
Which group is he in? I vote for robots.
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