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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sep 10, 2016 - 11:26am PT
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"It would not surprise me one bit should it be discovered that Obama was behind this event.
He is as evil as they come."
So says a Trump voter.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 10, 2016 - 11:46am PT
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Did the military feed false UFO info to the public in the 1980's?
Ex-Air Force Law Enforcement Agent Says He Hoaxed Major UFO Mythologies
At first the AFOSI Public Affairs Chief was very helpful. She expedited my request, and I received some very interesting documents. I was told that when my FOIA request was fulfilled, she would help me find someone I could talk to for an official statement. However, once I got the documents, she would no longer talk to me.
What was in the documents was very interesting and corroborated some of the legend around the Doty affair. The story begins with a man named Paul Bennewitz, who owned a humidity equipment company with contracts with Kirtland AFB. His house and office were near Kirtland, and he believed he was seeing UFOs over a part of the base that housed nuclear weapons. He also believed he was receiving transmissions from the aliens that flew those UFOs. Surprisingly, the Air Force humored him. They sent out Doty and an officer to investigate, but AFOSI decided that further investigation was unwarranted.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alejandro-rojas/exair-force-law-enforceme_b_5312650.html
New Mexico Cop Says Military Responsible for Cattle Mutilations
The first publicized case of a strange cattle mutilation was outside of Alamosa, Colorado in 1967, only 100 miles or so northeast of Dulce. An appaloosa horse was found with the head and neck skinned and defleshed. The bones where white and clean, and there was a lack of blood in the area. The lacerations were cauterized as if a laser scalpel were used according to a pathologist out of Denver. No satisfactory explanation has ever been found as to how or why this animal was killed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alejandro-rojas/cattle-mutiliations_b_932711.html
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Sep 11, 2016 - 02:52pm PT
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So I wonder if kids shooting at the rocket with a rifle could have caused this? Imagine if they discovered a bullet hole in the wreckage.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Sep 11, 2016 - 04:10pm PT
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HFCS-
I had a similar thought.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 11, 2016 - 08:46pm PT
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That capability was developed as part of SDI
Yeah, and you can clearly see one of these in that explosion video if you stare at it long enough.
P.S. The SDI x-ray laser was pumped by a nuclear explosion - didn't see one of those in the video either...
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Sep 12, 2016 - 10:06pm PT
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This story just keeps getting stranger, if you are still paying attention
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Sep 13, 2016 - 04:01pm PT
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there must have been a malfunction,
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Sep 13, 2016 - 08:37pm PT
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Tom-
I've been following 3 different websites: SpaceflightInsider.com; spaceflight101.com; as well as space.com.
Do you have any link to what you're suggesting?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 13, 2016 - 10:46pm PT
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"SpaceX Faked Its Rocket Landing"
"Lockheed Martin Blew Up SpaceX's rocket"
"ALIENS sabotaged SpaceX launch"
"UFO Caused SpaceX Rocket Explosion"
etc, etc, etc...
Just google "stupid"...
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 14, 2016 - 07:15pm PT
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It's amazing how knuckle dragging develops one's common sense and keeps you too damn busy to be all up in it fantasizing about all manner of conspiracies and aliens. Hell, the only reason I don't believe in chemtrails is my posture really prevents me from looking up for more than a glance or two at a time.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Sep 14, 2016 - 07:17pm PT
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Hahahaha!
Obama is definitely behind this one. The prophet said so.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Sep 15, 2016 - 10:14am PT
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Veteranstoday.com has been tracking this; biased, but interesting insider sources
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AlanDoak
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Sep 15, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
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So I wonder if kids shooting at the rocket with a rifle could have caused this?
A rifle report would have been picked up by the numerous microphones around the launch site... and if the shooter was somehow close enough that the delay between the report and the explosion couldn't be distinguished, they would've been incinerated.
Besides, security at launch pads is really tight; they're not going to let kids near $100M+++ hardware, some of it military missions.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 15, 2016 - 03:30pm PT
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Doak, I guess you don't know any 15 year olds with a BMG 50 cal like I do.
Is the perimeter 3 miles? If not then no probs hitting it with a 50 cal.
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AlanDoak
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Sep 15, 2016 - 09:24pm PT
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Is the perimeter 3 miles? If not then no probs hitting it with a 50 cal.
That's an interesting thought experiment. Here's an image of Complex 39, where the explosion occurred, along with scale in the bottom right corner.
I'd presume that the USAF can/does maintain a 3-mile perimeter here, but I suppose Iranian Spec-ops are pretty sneaky....
But again, a 50-cal has a significant sound signature that would have been recorded.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 15, 2016 - 09:26pm PT
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It doesn't take a rocket machinist to make up a decent suppressor.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 15, 2016 - 09:33pm PT
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Concert bootleggers would love to have some of those three mile sound recorders.
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