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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Nov 26, 2006 - 08:56pm PT
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I'd say you'd be amazed at the amount of goading that goes on between climbing partners, except that I think that it goes on between friends and associates in virtually every field of human endeavor. So, probably that supriseing, all in all.
I have climbed El Cap several times with hard core republicans, good friends all, we never came close to coming to blows.
I'm betting, Lois, if you were on a surgical team with someone you had diferences with, you would concentrate on the job at hand, and not let the minor stuff get in the way of the real sh#t.
Troll, schmoll.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 26, 2006 - 09:10pm PT
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Others might disagree but I do believe you are innocent of intentionally trolling us Lois.
That's what makes you so diabolically good at it. You've read climbing books and read this forum for so long, yet you don't the the most basic elements are what we are talking about and poor Kevin had to take time from his life to post this most elemental info and you probably won't remember it a bit tomorrow.
Jesus, it's as if I were posting to a forum of doctors and nurses and some famous cardiac surgeon had to spend 20 minutes explaining to me in writing that the hospital had different wards for different purposes and problems and that different doctors had specialties.
When he sees that you won't learn, then he'll learn,
Peace
Karl
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N0_ONE
Social climber
Utah
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Nov 26, 2006 - 09:29pm PT
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I think karl and LEB are both trolling us.
I think they're really lovers who use this forum as a way to comunicate their differances and they're dragging us into their sick games!
Trolls!!!
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Nov 26, 2006 - 09:43pm PT
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On a wall everybody is the patient.
I shouldn't say anything, but, I'm pretty sure I saw Lois and Karl making out on the Bedayn bench the other day, early afternoon snowmelt cascading down off Columbia on either side of them, but don't tell till anyone, until they're ready to share with us.
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Nov 26, 2006 - 09:47pm PT
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"I copied it to a convenient place (my Palm), it will NOW be handy and convenient when I need to reference it to better interpret someone's post."
Oh, hee hee hee.
Lois leaves her palm laying about somewhere on that particular batch of information. Colleague picks it up.
"What is this class crap about?"
"Well, you see, I like to engage in discourse with these rock climbingers on thier online climbing forum."
"Oh, you climb?"
"No, I'm rather quite comfortable with my life at the moment. I just like to get inside their heads."
"Ahh. And this relates to classes how?"
"Oh, this is how they rate rock climbs. I keep it handy so that when I read what I write, I can properly interpret it."
"Hmm. And you don't climb?"
"No. They are just interesting people."
I get that Lois is real, she's proven it enough to me, and she's pretty intuitive, though often takes her intuitions in the wrong direction, but this is starting to defy logic. You better be writing a book.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 26, 2006 - 09:51pm PT
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I thought LEB == Karl? Or was that on another thread?
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Nov 26, 2006 - 10:17pm PT
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Hmm, that's a baited hook itself.
Pass.
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Mimi
climber
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Nov 26, 2006 - 10:43pm PT
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For shizzle, Batman.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 26, 2006 - 11:43pm PT
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I think you miss the point Lois. People are spending their valuable time explaining something to you that you're hardly interested in, have had explained to you before, and should have learned already from the books you claimed to have read.
If you are going to spend time writing and asking about climbing, at least have the respect to learn the first damn thing about it first before asking others to write a book personalized for you with the very basics that are covering quickly and efficiently in books like the ones John Long has written. You even know him, they're cheap, don't you get it? Learn something or forget it, but respect the time of others.
Peace
Karl
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 27, 2006 - 12:31am PT
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I think Pete is laughing.
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Nov 27, 2006 - 12:39am PT
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Ron, that's just the voices.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 27, 2006 - 01:52am PT
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Well Lois, if the forum is so free, you can say what you will and I'll say what I will and other's can act on our advice or flame us for it. Fair enough.
I was just taking it upon myself to warn new and well intentioned forum posters to beware of the waste of time that typing at you can be. Maybe I'm burnt out and cynical but I treat very, very few people this way online. You earned it.
How did you earn it. Here's a couple of old classic examples
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=81864
and
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=79639
Bye now
Karl
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Aya
Uncategorizable climber
New York
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Nov 27, 2006 - 03:08am PT
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Can't someone just teach Lois how to google?
That way, she gets all the info she wants, while nobody here gets irritated with her ceaseless questions about the most basic aspects of climbing.
For example, re: grading, google ("climbing rating systems") yielded dozens of sites replicating the condensed information Lois was so happy to receive and copied to her desktop.
http://www.climber.org/data/decimal.html
http://www.safeclimbing.org/about_overview.htm
http://www.climb-utah.com/ratings.htm
http://climbing.about.com/od/gettingstarted/a/YDS.htm
http://www.spadout.com/wiki/index.php/Climbing_Grades
and since the subject has been touched on, V-grades for bouldering
http://climbing.about.com/od/gettingstarted/a/vscale.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(bouldering);
http://www.mountaintimes.com/summer/climbing4.php3
As for the rest of the needing testosterone to climb, only trying it to make my husband happy stuff, I wouldn't even know where to begin to start. Luckily for me, I don't care, so I don't need to.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 27, 2006 - 03:16am PT
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Actually, I find that when Lois knows what she's talking about, that she contributes well.
I'm under your skin now eh Lois? Like one of those dermatophytes in a toe fungus commercial! Ah, vengence is mine sayeth the Baba.
Did anyone catch this little exchange from the "execute Bush and Cheney" Thread?
Lois puts words in Karl's mouth so Karl restates some facts and then adds
"... Oh wait, I just stated some facts and specifics. Your eyes have undoubtedly glossed over by now and I could call you a stupid bitch and you might not notice. Should I dare? Naw. I'm just upset much along the same lines as you might be if I posted something like
Lois, you keep stating that Bush is a fine president who merely got bad advice and you seem be calling for a third term. Don't you know that's against the law?
That's how close to restating my position you are.
to which Lois replys
"Now, Karl, get this. I do NOT think Bush is a good president. I think he is a failure as a president. Have you been reading any of my posts? I would recommend that you reread them - carefully - and then come back and "tell" me what I said and/or believe.
Karl, one more thing. I passed 7th grade social studies. I already *know* about term limits. This past election was effectively a referendum on the President. It was as much about a generalized vote of no confidence in Bush then it was anything else. Whether you like Bush, hate Bush or stand somewhere in-between, Tues election was a splendid testament to the ability of the American people to speak up and speak out ...and effect change. *That* was a beautiful thing to witness.
edited in - Karl, I just reread your post - apparently I read it too quickly the first time. I do now get your point - you may negate the preceeding two paragraphs but I still say we would kill one another if left alone in the same room."
That's from
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=278574&msg=279263#msg279263
Yuk yuk
Karl
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 27, 2006 - 03:48am PT
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Memory is foggy, but I CAN google!
"In a parody of the "Point-Counterpoint" segment of the news program 60 Minutes, Curtin portrayed a controlled "liberal", Politically Correct viewpoint vs. Dan Aykroyd, who prototyped today's right-wing media "attack" journalist. (Curtin would always present the liberal "Point" portion first, then Aykroyd would present the "Counterpoint" portion, beginning with the statement, "Jane, you ignorant slut!")"
Peace
Karl
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v10gripper
Boulder climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Nov 27, 2006 - 05:01am PT
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This thread has my vote for most retarded I have ever read on supertopo...
S.Powers
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v10gripper
Boulder climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Nov 27, 2006 - 05:01am PT
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This thread has my vote for most retarded I have ever read on supertopo...
S.Powers
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 27, 2006 - 05:21am PT
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This isn't the 2000 election. You can't vote twice
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Nov 27, 2006 - 08:38am PT
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Oh, crap. I agree with Riley the narc...
Lois, maybe you don't realize it, but your comments on "dropping the rope" are unbelieveably offensive to climbers. It is a sacred trust, someones life in your hands. Friends may joke about it, but any court would call it murder.
I have climbed with people I wanted to maim with an ice axe, or push off the top, but giving a faulty belay is major taboo.
I once did a wall with a guy who turned out to be hard core KKK, and an alcoholic. I wouldn't even tap the brakes if I saw him crossing the street, but I held his rope until I tossed it into the back of his truck.
I did not realize that what Warbler wrote was new info to you. Not to be insulting, but that is the most basic piece of info in all of climbing. Before that was a hairy guy pointing at a cliff, grunting "Ugh, rok."
Come up to NH next spring and I'll get you up Whitehorse ledge. All it'll cost is gas and shoe rental if my buddy doesn't have your size.
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