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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 11, 2015 - 08:16am PT
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Bernie is Democratic Socialist, just like the majority of Americans
and he has the backing of the majority of Americans on every issue
What are the Republican issues?
Make abortion illegal
Stop Gay marriage
Take away birth control
Make the Country a Christian theocracy
less pay
Give the Country away to the fascists
militarize the police
build a Giant Wall
Throw people in jail for drugs
keep people repressed and poor
kill black and brown people
not anything I would vote for
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Aug 11, 2015 - 08:20am PT
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Breath of fresh air!
Donald Trump!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 11, 2015 - 08:21am PT
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One thing good about this campaign season
It's easy to spot the uneducated moronic racists
the number hovers around 22-30%
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 11, 2015 - 08:24am PT
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I am going to vote for The Donald
I just think that we will like his ideas on governing, when he wants to tell us about them.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 11, 2015 - 08:54am PT
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Not really, pyro.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Aug 11, 2015 - 08:58am PT
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This morning I heard a bit of news about Bernie's 12, 15, 25,000 sized crowds he's drawing.
Hillary's largest so far is 5,500.
And yet the only "speaking" I heard was Hillary and Trump.
Why won't they put Bernie's voice on the radio?????
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 11, 2015 - 09:00am PT
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Advertisers don't like sleeping audiences.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 11, 2015 - 09:07am PT
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she was brilliant in the Senate and as Sec.
Brilliant?........., Brilliant??
Face it, the two ONLY reasons she's electable;
1. She ain't a He.
2. She's got Money.
GO........ooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOO BERNIE B^D
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MikeMc
Social climber
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Aug 11, 2015 - 09:31am PT
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This will be yet another election where I don't vote for anyone I want, or think is qualified, but yet again vote for the least rotten candidate.
I don't actually think I have ever voted for a candidate I truly "believed" in. Kinda sad actually.
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 11, 2015 - 09:38am PT
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How did Mitt Romney lose then, Blu, seeing as how he was a he and had lots of money?
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10b4me
Social climber
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Aug 11, 2015 - 09:44am PT
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This will be yet another election where I don't vote for anyone I want, or think is qualified, but yet again vote for the least rotten candidate.
I don't actually think I have ever voted for a candidate I truly "believed" in. Kinda sad actually.
Agreed, another case of voting for the lesser of two evils.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Aug 11, 2015 - 09:56am PT
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If The Bern gets the nod then it will be three elections in a row I voted for the candidate I wanted. If it's Billary then it'll be the lesser of two evils - lesser by a huge margin
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Lennox
climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
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Aug 11, 2015 - 10:02am PT
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Bernie has the biggest crowds because the people that are for Bernie right now are extremely enthusiastic; they're the most enthusiastic. But biggest crowds does not equal biggest percentage of votes.
It would be quite nice if the 85-99% of the republican voters who will never vote for a democrat, let alone a democratic socialist, would suddenly all turn off Fox "news" and the rest of the right-wing propaganda-media echo-chamber machine, and become more introspective and willing to question all of their assumptions--they just might realize they've been voting year after year against their own best interests--but that's, "What's The Matter With Kansas,"--it ain't gonna happen. Eventually they'll all vote for the last clown standing.
The two most enthusiastic movements right now are Bernie and Black Lives Matter.
The Donald is not a movement, where anger and disaffection are being funnelled into an effort to change the status quo--The Donald is a bowel movement--the 20% of right-wingers who support him no matter what he says or does don't care if their support for him could lead to a win for Hillary; they just want to give the republican establishment and everyone else the middle-finger.
If the Bernie and Black Lives Matter movements could be fused together, their enthusiasm could become infectious and Bernie might just have a chance of beating Hillary, but then there is the problem of pulling enough independents to beat the reigning clown in the general.
As to the issue of Bernie's ability to govern with a republican controlled congress; Bernie has been able to work with republicans on legislation occasionally--and I would actually prefer 4-8 years of nothing getting done than 4-8 years where you and I and everyone but the billionaires takes it up the azz while being told it's for our own patriotic good, just like the founders of our country intended.
I've been giving a $100 a month to Bernie; at the very least I'm hoping his candidacy will push The Inevitable Hillary to promote some more progressive window-dressing.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 11, 2015 - 10:47am PT
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The Main stream media owned by rich right wingers will tear Bernie down to mud as soon as the day comes when they see their empire at risk
Everything Bernie says is a direct threat to them:
Higher Taxes, public funded elections, free college, equal rights!!!\
They will fight to take him down:
He's too old
he' a pinko commie
you will pay more in taxes!!!
he's letting brown people get ahead!!
He doesn't hate guns
he wrote something about free sex 40 years ago!
He has funny hair
he's Jew!!!
But I will still vote for Bernie if he is on the ticket
If you want change, you have to ALSO vote for a Democratic Congress, because no President will be able to overcome their obstruction, as we found out. That's why Gitmo is still open - GOP obstruction
Please just forget about third ticket candidates, your vote will just make sure the wrong person wins.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 11, 2015 - 10:52am PT
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Please just forget about third ticket candidates, your vote will just make sure the wrong person wins.
Nader 2000 = Bush 2000.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Aug 11, 2015 - 11:09am PT
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If the Bernie and Black Lives Matter movements could be fused together
that went real well in Seattle ... didn't it!!!
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Aug 11, 2015 - 11:23am PT
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The Main stream media owned by rich right wingers will tear Bernie down to mud as soon as the day comes when they see their empire at risk
I take it, then that the "Main street media" does not include ABC, CBS, NBS, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC or almost every daily paper except the Wall Street Journal.
John
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 11, 2015 - 11:30am PT
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John makes a good point
the right has the media they like to tune in to, and so does the left
Fox dominates cable, millions of viewers versus a couple hundred thousand for MSNBC
I have always viewed ABC, NBC, CBS, and cable CNN as pretty much not having an agenda
for or against one of the two major parties
The NY Times sure backed, bought, and beat the drums of war for the Iraq invasion during the President Bush Administration
regardless, I consider them pretty much non party affiliated also
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 11, 2015 - 11:45am PT
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If the Bernie and Black Lives Matter movements could be fused together
Carson from the right would be better suited to do that fusing.
IF we could somehow garner a Bernie Vs Carson race, we'd have a bright future.
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Lennox
climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
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Aug 11, 2015 - 11:46am PT
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If you want change, you have to ALSO vote for a Democratic Congress, because no President will be able to overcome their obstruction, as we found out. That's why Gitmo is still open - GOP obstruction
That is a long-term problem. Urban vs. suburban vs. rural voters in many states have elected republican (and democractic, but more often republican) state legislatures and governors who have gerrymandered their state and federal congressional districts. Majorities of the electorate don't shape congress, they can still elect a president, maybe, and unless the supreme court decides to put their thumb on the scale.
Republican gerrymandering and the phony election fraud laws are just the desperate tactics of a drowning party, the republicans, trying to win an electorate that is and will continue to become more diametrically opposed to the policies they cling to as their base of old angry white men dies off.
Besides getting big money out of politics--we need to change whatever laws or constitutional amendments necessary and create some kind of commission to create equitable federal congressional districts; no red or blue state should have that power.
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