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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2015 - 04:12pm PT
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The lights are solar, the only ones working
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Google is donating one million dollars to the relief effort.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Apr 25, 2015 - 04:16pm PT
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There are nameless dead and famous dead, yet each life is worth the same imho. Prayers to all loved ones, family and friends suffering from loss at this terrible time.
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Mark Rodell
Trad climber
Bangkok
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Apr 25, 2015 - 04:33pm PT
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I have heard from a few friends. They and their families are safe. However, I still am waiting to hear from others. It is going to be a grim day
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Apr 25, 2015 - 04:37pm PT
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Jim, if what you say is true, our country is in trouble. Somehow, tho, I think there are many quiet ones out there that are living simply, sharing what they have and bringing up their families to do likewise. We just don't hear about them all that much.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 25, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
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A part of me feels a little shallow for concentrating in my posts about climbers and the concerns about various mountaineering efforts.
But for me this is natural.. there may be people I know up there. With certainty there are friends of people I know up there.
I am well aware that each person lost is someone elses friend or loved one and each is a tragedy and shattering of someones world.
Such a terrible year in Nepal.. Last spring on Everest.. last fall/winter with the widespread avalanches.. now this
too much
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2015 - 04:40pm PT
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Agreed Lynne.
One of the problems with naming the dead in Nepal is the naming system itself. For example, Mingma Sherpas exist by the hundreds because Mingma is the day of the week they were born on. Even knowing their village doesn't always help as many Sherpas in every village were born on Monday. Among the Nepalese their birth order is often reflected in their names 1st 2nd 3rd etc. son or daughter - Saili, Maili, Kanchi etc. A different sense of group and individual than we have.
And like it or not, the rich and well known have access to more resources which can either be hoarded or put to good use as in the case of Google.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Apr 25, 2015 - 05:02pm PT
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Jan, I think many of the men in Nepal are the "bread winners." Is there any relief system for widows and orphans?
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Apr 25, 2015 - 05:05pm PT
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Yeah, as bad as it sounds like in Kathmandu and Everest, the Dhaulagiri and Annapurna region looks closer to the epicenter. Pokhara could be in bad shape.
stevep, I ran across this mention:
http://news.yahoo.com/quake-triggers-everest-avalanche-climbers-risk-094437928.html
Stan Adhikari, who runs the Mountain House lodge in Pokhara near the mountain range, said the city had escaped the worst of the damage. "There hasn't been much damage," Adhikari said.
He said there were about two dozen guests at his lodge, including people from Europe, the United States and China. The road from Pokhara to Kathmandu was not passable but he hoped it would open on Sunday.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2015 - 05:13pm PT
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Lynne-
Unfortunately not unless they are killed during mountaineering. That means the Sherpas killed in the Khumbu icefall will get $15,000 but those in base camp nothing unless their friends fib for them. That's why western aid is so important.
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Bluelens
climber
Pasadena, CA
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Apr 25, 2015 - 05:24pm PT
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2015 - 05:42pm PT
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I located several of my friends through Google's service. It works.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Apr 25, 2015 - 06:05pm PT
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Photo of Everest Base Camp
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Apr 25, 2015 - 06:15pm PT
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Tragic....dreams shattered as well as lives.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Mexico City, D.F.
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Apr 25, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
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"Latest reports suggest up to 70 UK climbers remain unaccounted for following the avalanche."
The Khumbu icefall route was wiped out, with all the fixed ropes and ladders. It seems that whoever is up there will be spending at least one night out. An estimated 800 people were at base camp, although that may include the people up on the mountain. Weather forecast is calling for heavy snow and -28C this week.
(of course the death toll in Kathmandu is much worse and I don't mean any disrespect by focusing on the foreign climbers)
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Apr 25, 2015 - 07:30pm PT
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Dave. Haiti had very little to no rebar. I'm headed there this week to keep building an orphanage. With rebar this time.
Hope they can get a lot of people off the hill and unburied quick. Not good.
Edit. My dad is a structural engineer and does the plans for our construction down there. We use local labor to build, masons who are used to building their way, so I have become very familiar with what they want to do as they revert to their style when we turn our backs the last two years, and we have not found any smooth rebar for sale in the country now, nor have I seen any in the existing buildings. But they do like to throw the stuff in there randomly without tying it together in a grid. Or using enough. Or tying the rebar in the roof into the walls. Or using large enough diameter. Or using it in their foundations which consist of 8-12" rocks cobbled with concrete mix which is crap but saves money and time. As we were pulling teeth in buildings before the earthquake I would comment on all this, now we haven't don't anything but work on an orphanage construction project there for the last two years.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2015 - 07:38pm PT
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Terrible events. Prayers for all.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Apr 25, 2015 - 07:47pm PT
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hey there say, tooth... prayers for your trip...
may the right stuff, happen, for the right times, etc...
and do as much good as possible...
and get back, safe, for your family, later...
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p-owed
Trad climber
Ramona ca
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Apr 25, 2015 - 08:22pm PT
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re post from facebook
Mountain Guide
10 mins ·
20 CONFIRMED DEAD AT EVEREST BASECAMP, SEVENTEEN MORE CRITICALLY INJURED.
The morning after report from our partners at Mountain Trip:
"Jacob called in this morning from Everest Base Camp, we had a challenging time communicating with a poor satellite phone connection, but we were able to talk over the course of 3 phone calls. Things are happening at basecamp, starting at dawn, helicopters were able to begin evacuating the most critically injured from EBC as of now 7 evacuation flights have come in and out of EBC. There are 17 critically injured that the doctors and everyone at base camp watched over last night, and as weather has improved today they are hoping to be able to fly all out today. Over 20 people are reported dead at base camp currently with many more still missing. Teams at Camp 1 and Camp 2 seem to be OK, but anxious to get down to base camp. There have been only a couple of Sherpa who have descended through the icefall since the earthquake. There are many climbers missing still, and they expect to find more victims at basecamp and in the icefall before this is all through. The Sherpa who descended through the icefall were able to hear some voices of trapped climbers on their way down. Jacob and a guide from IMG (sorry I didn’t get the name due to bad reception) are going to attempt to go up into the icefall this morning to see if they can help anyone, and to assess what gear they may need to help establish a route for the more than 100 climbers who are above the icefall in Camp 1 and Camp 2. Jacob said that the “Icefall Doctors” have left the mountain, so the rescue is up to the remaining climbers."
In this photo provided by Azim Afif, a man approaches the scene after an avalanche triggered by a massive earthquake swept across Everest Base Camp, Nepal on Saturday, April 25, 2015. Afif and his team of four others from the Universiti Teknologi Malaysia (UTM) all survived the avalanche. (Azim Afif via AP)
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Crazy Bat
Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
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Apr 25, 2015 - 08:47pm PT
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I know a world famous expert on building collapse. He noted that the rebar in the Hati buildings that failed during the earthquake was smooth metal. Because it was smooth it could slide out of the concrete, even if it was properly placed and wired together.
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