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jonnyrig
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People have wrapped rope or tow straps around a spinning wheel to get out. It's not a great method, but sometimes it's what ya got. In a lot o cases, there's nothing to anchor to, in which case you're stuck making some kind of dead-man. Course, if you don't have a winch you'd better be creative. Cable come-alongs are cheap and actually work pretty well. Shovels are simply a requirement.
I forgot to mention up-thread that I always have an excess of drinking water.
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kstarr
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I usually disregard these types of threads that have digressed into pissing matches, but I just wanted to throw some thoughts into the “conversation”.
To the OP, I say, nice work being self reliant and getting yourself out of bad situation. I will be putting that into my bag of tricks for the future, but I do hope though that you made an attempt to clean up the mess that was left behind.
To the Haters that say this is no big deal. That is a values judgement that doesn’t really have merit other than what you think is right or wrong. One click of a search engine with “OHV desert impacts” can bring up pages of documents that explain in depth to the contrary.
To be clear, I am not anti OHV. I love exploring in my truck and have been stuck in the mud and snow on occasion. This is more about the general attitude of people and their perceived “right” to do something whether it’s legal or not. Legality doesn’t justify it- it just makes it unpunishable. Just ask the oil and gas industry about that.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nicely stated, kstarr.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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It's also possible that if you have something sturdy a few feet high (like another vehicle or a boulder,etc,) between the stuck vehicle and the bollard you can arrange somewhat of a parbuckling advantage on the wench line, depending on the relative elevation of the bollard to the vehicle. But It's probably clear you did not have that particular advantage out there that day.
Next time.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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I usually disregard these types of threads that have digressed into pissing matches, but I just wanted to throw some thoughts into the “conversation”.
To the OP, I say, nice work being self reliant and getting yourself out of bad situation. I will be putting that into my bag of tricks for the future, but I do hope though that you made an attempt to clean up the mess that was left behind.
To the Haters that say this is no big deal. That is a values judgement that doesn’t really have merit other than what you think is right or wrong. One click of a search engine with “OHV desert impacts” can bring up pages of documents that explain in depth to the contrary.
To be clear, I am not anti OHV. I love exploring in my truck and have been stuck in the mud and snow on occasion. This is more about the general attitude of people and their perceived “right” to do something whether it’s legal or not. Legality doesn’t justify it- it just makes it unpunishable. Just ask the oil and gas industry about that.
I agree. But I wouldn't ascribe bad intent to the guy. I've seen obvious bad intent here in my part of the country.
More than idly curious: how does one go about lifting a truck to gain ground clearance? I have a garden-variety truck that could use some vertical enhancement (not for rock crawling, just to keep from high-centering on some crappy roads)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Get a lift kit and have it installed.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Still have it. Not much (garage door height).
My best full size 4X4 is an F250 with a 453 front and back end conversion and a six banger. No high end but it could creep over a boulder.
Does anybody else go offroading with multiple shovels, a 16lb san angelo bar, powder and safety fuse, compressor and tire patches, and ramp rails? I really enjoy exploring old cat tracks in and around southern Utah, and there are plenty,..
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George Bell
Trad climber
Colorado
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Mar 11, 2015 - 08:56am PT
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Good thing you brought that winch!!
Reminds me of the time we almost got stuck in a rental car on the highway in Death Valley. This photo was taken a few miles south of Furnace Creek en route to Badwater ...
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Mar 11, 2015 - 11:16am PT
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The softer the mud the bigger the bollard rule applies.
Try youtube and search for 'ground anchor', 'earth anchor' ,
'pul-pal foldable land anchor'etc.
A faster alternative to digging bollards. Many good ideas, basically a boat
anchor but for winching stuck vehicles. Some have a gas powered winch
attachment so you don't need one on the vehicle -Lewis Winch-.
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