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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Mar 11, 2015 - 09:02pm PT
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"If a person defaces beauty, perhaps it is because they feel ugly inside, and witnessing beauty is a painful reminder of what they lack. Defacing external beauty can also be symbolic of self-destruction, or at least bringing the world down to their self-perceived level of ugliness. I think there's a similar dynamic for vandals- folks who don't feel worthy or valuable or who lack the confidence that they can create something of value, so they destroy value. There are different forms of hell, and these are among them."
Or maybe it's just fun to get high and paint some sh#t on some rock.
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okie
Trad climber
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Mar 11, 2015 - 09:18pm PT
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I blame society. It all started with Frank Endo and that magic white powder quarried from the cliffs of Dover. Now it's plastered on every hold from kloberdanse to psycho roof. That shite doesn't wash off
in the rain either...
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Mar 11, 2015 - 11:21pm PT
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^^ talk about lover's leaps (jumping to conclusions), dragging John Gill into a topic about spray painting rock.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Mar 12, 2015 - 09:45am PT
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Apogee, LoL....a tat maybe but not a tag :)
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Mar 12, 2015 - 10:25am PT
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ya it is disturbing but it doesn't do anything to the climb!
let's just climb and not worry
WTF?
Clearly you've never tried to smear on a tagged spot before...also clearly a troll.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 12, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
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Apparently, an Ohio man thinks pooping on cars is art too..
I saw that last night too. I bet he's a PETA member whose cat got run over.
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Tripod? Swellguy? Halfwit? Smegma?
Trad climber
Wanker Stately Mansion, Placerville
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Mar 20, 2015 - 01:04pm PT
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I bet if a $100 reward to ID the taggers went up in Squirrel's Strawberry Station Store it would not be long before we figured out who did it. It's most likely local bored teenagers. Often time calling them out on it or talking to their parents would get it taken care of.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Mar 20, 2015 - 01:33pm PT
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Apparently, an Ohio man thinks pooping on cars is art too.. Fine, a long as it's his car on his own property.
reward poster in Strawberry Station Store. Not a bad idea. And at the Leap parking area.
Let's make it a SuperTopo award and a much bigger amount. I'm in for $20 for arrest and conviction.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Ouray, CO.
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Mar 21, 2015 - 04:48am PT
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So much fail here.
In the act, in the responses, in philosophy...
I get your point, Mr. Touchy-Feely, but OMG you are so what is wrong with modern society!
Cutting fingers off is way too extreme, but I think a friendly manual behavior modification is more than warranted in this situation.
That's done on scene, and not discussed, M'kay...
I grew up just like you are describing, and I was in a situation with spray paint one time. It felt wrong and I didn't want to do it, but I didn't want to get beat up either, so I went along with it.
It's one thing to not feel well represented, it's another to spurt your ugliness onto the world and force everyone else to deal with it.
Guess what, you are not going to like how some people deal with it.
The only sane response is to impose many hours of community service, preferably graffiti removal. I don't care if it stings their hands, we are going to use a methylene Chloride/ toluene/ xylene combo my grandfather whipped up. I sh#t you not, it will take the white off of rice. You have to use it all, because it explodes if you put the lid back on once it oxidizes.
Ah, chemistry... Basis of everything, ya know.
If anybody really cared about justice, they'd have suggested tagging the perps car and his Mom's house, where he undoubtably lives. Ya know, because it's kind of her fault anyway, right?
"How are we gonna catch em?"
Seriously? Have you never heard of game cameras?
Good on ya, Petch and crew! The rocklizzerd says hello.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 21, 2015 - 06:55am PT
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ohh wait a bit
Not that I am not all in, on getting the spurt of lowlifes who do this stuff arrested but any Violence begets more violence to property & what ever the retaliation is it will be an escalation. and a climbers life Is often held by a thread, and around some 'hoods climbing gear has been sabotaged.Sliced rope anchors and smashed anchors ect.
jstans Links Linked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r92xizl30wk
Recycled glass etches masonry less than does sand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-53GGpgtK0s
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jstan
climber
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Mar 21, 2015 - 07:40am PT
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The second video noted that coal slag "embeds the surface". It might be worth investigating to see if a surface thus embedded less readily accepts graffiti. That is what we need.
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Petch
Gym climber
knapsack crack
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Mar 22, 2015 - 08:45am PT
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Here's a couple "after" photos. These pics were taken right after we finished, so they have a wet look still.
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caughtinside
Social climber
Oakland, CA
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Mar 22, 2015 - 10:35am PT
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Thanks for the cleanup. Hopefully it doesn't reappear.
There's always bored teenagers hanging out up there. I yelled at a couple who were throwing Gatorade bottles off the top of the hogsback, I think it spoiled their fun.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Mar 22, 2015 - 11:24am PT
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petch,
i'll be in hayberry
on Tuesday.
after that hit up
squirrel for a 12 pack
of his finest,
on me.
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Bad Climber
climber
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Mar 22, 2015 - 01:02pm PT
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Huge, HUGE thank you, guys! The Leap is kind of a sacred place for me, and I've been climbing there for almost 40 years. Seeing in tagged was more than nauseating.
BAd
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Mar 22, 2015 - 01:30pm PT
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Well done Petch!
So how to sufficiently discourage the next yayhoo miscreants?
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Petch
Gym climber
knapsack crack
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Mar 22, 2015 - 09:10pm PT
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Thanks weedge for the offer on the beer. It should go to the unknown person(s) who did the initial scrub. Our crew, George, Josh and Cathy from the fs, and OG, just added to the job.
Let's hope it doesn't happen again!
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 22, 2015 - 09:13pm PT
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Great job, Gentlemen - hopefully the covert cover will discourage the "new canvas" mentality.
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