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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Oct 18, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
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By the way, the re-post from MountainProject was a year ago, almost to the day.
I did that decent in my sandals.
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2014 - 08:28pm PT
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OMG...have you checked out YELP, GROUPON, FACEBOOK, LIVING SOCIAL, TRIP ADVISOR.....
Olga and Rock Climb Every Day has taken their guide service to the mass media and look at all the photos of her clients and Olga guiding without permits throughout the S. California. To learn more just google; Olga, rock climb every day, Yelp.
Do the matching helmets tell you anything??
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Oct 18, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
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Yup, those pictures are from Trashcan and Atlantis Wall. But she informed the NPS that she doesn't guide here, she "guides in Joshua Tree".
What a crock.
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2014 - 08:54pm PT
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Check out the schedule for Rock Climb Every Day for Sunday, October 19, 2014. Olga is leading the Inland Empire Christian Rock Climbing Group to Santa Clarita. Twelve clients!! Does she have a permit? More fun gang roping a crumbly wall for $75/per, on public land, with no permit and no certification!!
Farming twenty-six different meetup groups for beginning climbers to join her Rock Climb Every Day classes. Not only is she a fraud, Olga's exploiting Christianity for profit.
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Jawon
climber
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Oct 18, 2014 - 09:07pm PT
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Maybe the lesson here is that guides (of all things) need to be transparent. I'd prefer a guide who tells me they lack experience in a certain area so that I know in which situations I can trust them, over a guide who bloats their experience in indirect or unclear ways.
I hope you don't take this as a witch hunt, it's more that the life of a guide is somewhat under the limelight and imho rightfully so. I have the HIGHEST REGARD for successful climbing guides (I am not one) who have put in the miles and there is a level of integrity the industry deserves.
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2014 - 09:58pm PT
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Well put, Jawon. I too have the utmost respect for hard working guides with integrity, but that's not who we're working with at Rock Climb Every Day. There is no transparency and there is no integrity. Olga has told the authorities at Joshua Tree National Park that she is not running a guide service there, but we see photos on Yelp of her classes, all in matching helmets, enjoying climbs at the Atlantis Wall. There has to be some accountability, which means Rock Climb Every Day needs to follow the rules and regulations like the legitimate guide services, with the necessary certifications and permits.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Oct 18, 2014 - 10:29pm PT
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Is that Rurprider or Rumprider, because it sure seems like....
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Oct 19, 2014 - 06:12am PT
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well, I will say they could have picked a better photo for their "Lead Climbing" advert. Looks like "Hangdog 101" to me. I'd think a "leader never falls" attitude would be better for outdoor beginners, at least to start, rather than the "let it fly" gym style. Of course I have no idea how they actually teach. Just sayin'...
Show me a photo of someome on the Bachar-Yerian. That's inspirational. That's the kind of leader I want to be. Teach me how to do, or at least aspire to do, that!
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 19, 2014 - 06:35am PT
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Oh, Studly..... you big bad repressed beast...was that a case of parapraxes? If it's rump you subconsciously desire....here it is.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Oct 19, 2014 - 07:27am PT
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Nice buns.
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 19, 2014 - 10:26am PT
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Cosmic.....Olga could fit you with some Lycra and you could enjoy endless gang TR adventures. Just imagine the social gym-like experience.
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ThomasKeefer
Trad climber
San Diego
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Oct 19, 2014 - 10:27am PT
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cragsman... If you find out you have, please let me know! I now feel like I have been missing out.
Back to my last post, is AMGA thinking biner to biner with a PAS on the lower biner (again, WTF?) exemplary guide behavior? I am genuinely curious since I have not checked back in to the textbook knowledge stuff and I have learned something on more than one occasion.
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 19, 2014 - 05:21pm PT
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Operating a pirate guide service in Joshua Tree.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Oct 19, 2014 - 07:08pm PT
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Still awaiting an honest response from Olga... Crickets...
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Oct 19, 2014 - 08:16pm PT
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Yeah well my friend, people tend to shut up when multiple photos of them guiding illegally surface ;)
On a brighter note, the wife and I will be down to see you at some point this winter RLF. Maybe we should hire RCED to show us around! Hahahaah
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Oct 19, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
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Love to see you guys. Let me know!
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Oct 20, 2014 - 10:30am PT
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Olga, I hate big groups, Top Roping all the climbs at any given place.
I am glad I know about YOUR GUIDE SERVICE, cause if I ever walk up and see 20 -30 folks TRing the heck out of a place and its on NPS, State or BLM land... I will get motivated to become a snitch. I promise you.
Guy Keesee
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Oct 20, 2014 - 11:59am PT
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Just curious, what are the rules regarding large groups like MeetUp, boy scouts or college outdoor clubs in Jtree.
Although those groups are not being "guided," they create the same situation as a guide with large group. The last time I went to Jtree with a couple of beginners, EVERY "beginner" crag we visited was filled with this kind of group, and it was difficult to find a place where I could set-up a TR for my novice partners.
I know that I should just probably hike a few miles and find a deserted area, and I know that it is a public area and I should quit whining about crowds. However, I cannot help but wonder if JT would be a more enjoyable place if large groups like this were more tightly regulated.
Oh yeah, IMO pirate guides suck. Being a guide is a hard profession that doesn't pay a ton. The pirates make it even more difficult for the legit services to make a living, not to mention that they are basically stealing from all of us by not following the rules and paying to get a permit.
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Oct 20, 2014 - 01:03pm PT
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1000's and 1000's of climbs in the park...
If anyone is coming upon a clogged, overcrowded area, then they're not paying attention to what the place offers...
You are correct.
Despite my efforts, I probably came off as a whiner in my above post. It was not my intention.
That being said, for a JT noob like myself, with limited time and partners that only climb 5.easy, it is not that easy to find places to climb. In that situation, I am part of the herd of gumbies. Based on that experience, I realize that the herd might be culled or made more manageable by regulating these types of groups.
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Oct 20, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
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Thanks! I really appreciate that. Locker, you are the man.
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