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justthemaid
climber
Los Angeles
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Wow- I'm feeling pretty lucky.
The BF and I have never had a fight while climbing.
The one time I took a trad class the instructor managed to have one of his female students in tears by the end of the day. He was being a jerk. Hope she asked for her money back.
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todd-gordon
climber
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My wife and I have done about 1000 climbs together;....we never have had mean words together, or a fight out climbing...She since has "retired " from climbing, as we have 3 boys age 2 and under.... but.......here's as close as we got;.........1. " If there isn't shade up there at the base of the climb....we will get in our first fight... and it won't be very pretty....."...(Note;...there WAS shade at the base...) 2. "Honey...it's not MY fault that the desent is totally overgrown and chocked with trees and bushes....and those yellowjackets that have just stung you in the ass and the face......THAT aint' my fault EITHER......blame NATURE...not ME......NATURE'S fault."......(Note... tears but no words of anger or hate.....). I am a lucky man to have a wife who is so agreeable, and tolerates all of my bullshit and lame antics....
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curlie
Trad climber
SLO, CA
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Hilarious post, radical!
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Hootervillian
climber
the Hooterville World-Guardian
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roofs, traverses, bushwacking, storms. Ha.
teach her to play golf.......tough guys.
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FireIntheCity
Mountain climber
from t'Hate-haunted canyon of human despair
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Four years go by and you bump this up with that? ^^^^^^
Wuhhh? Huh?
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hooblie
climber
from where the anecdotes roam
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had a gal freeze up one time in a top rope, moderately steep face with loads of incut edges, first time on a rope, though she noobie bouldered quite well. she got whoafully distraught, only knew "i can't."
so i maneuvered up alongside. geez, the wailing and beseaching. it was totally mental. it bulged a bit but she couldn't release the bomber to grab the next one and i don't winch. after a long session of coddling to no effect i gave her two feet of slack, caught her unawares and dislodged her.
she instantly sobered up, and scampered to the top. cheerfull even. i never would have guessed and still can't grasp it, it was like she had been pulling my leg. in very short order she was handling 5.10's so i married her.
nothing changed. she could be having a meltdown, the phone would ring,
it was for her... a girlfriend! boom, sunshine and lollipops.
to her credit, in a broader behavioral sense, it was like her self discipline could kick in
like no other. as if something inside said "enough already," and it would be ... enough
edit: by the way, i bumped this up. deleted my one word "bump" when it got covered, and took to typing. seems i might have tripped on some cadaver, creepy moths flew out.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Medussa's post on another thread.
Any one who worships Crimperslut/Ho bag has no credit.. .
You seem to have a big issue with one of the nicest and most respected folks on ST.
What's the matter did she rebuke your drunken pass. Or did she not care to listen too you prattle on about the drama of hang dogging a 5.something somewhere.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but will you ever realize how bad your breath stinks?
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j-tree
Trad climber
bay area, ca
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from the OP: "the communication (on the climb)gets bad and she's not talking"
Nothing makes me question ever being around a person again than this situation. Dangerous and a def character flaw IMHO
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Pate, that is giving dicks a bad name.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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So we're descending the N Ridge of Mt Adams and we come to this slabby bit
where water has flowed and frozen. Granted, there was a sizeable dropoff
hard by but there was a lot of nice big gravel frozen into the ice for the
neo-skid tread effect. We'd taken our stampons off for the downclimbing
leading to the 'ice flow' and there was more 'clean' rock just the other side
of the 'flow' so I didn't want to put them on just to take them off again.
Similarly, I didn't want to bust out the rope for a 50' section. After I
waltzed across quite the heated discussion ensued. Suffice it to say I had
to go back and bust out the rope. Thirty years later we are still married
but my credibility is still in the shop. Er, I guess the junkyard would be more accurate.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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^^^ ha ha ha ^^^^
Good one.
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The Guy
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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"Why do guys insist on involving their non-climbing wives in climbing? Isn't that a little like introducing the wife to the mistress? (answer, yes, it is very much like that)"
Holy Sh#t, ding, ding, ding. I was married before I started climbing. I now get it. Climbing is my mistress and when I am mad with the wife I can go to her for a good time. Thank you Dingus Milktoast. Thank you.
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bjj
climber
beyond the sun
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This may be something I dreamed I heard, but I could swear someone once told me one of the routes at Josh in HVCG is aka "Divorce Court" because of the frequent highly visible screaming matches that go on in boy / girl teams.
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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An interesting dynamic - outbursts of profanities when fear sets in. My husband is very mild mannered, but the propensity for profanity goes up the further off the deck we are. He can climb solid weekend warrior grades, but the sidewalk traverse (5.4) on The First Kiss made the profanity flow like Niagra Falls. Guess when you combine elevation with traverses, the combination was explosive. When I expressed that his protestations were a little strong, it did not improve the situation at all. It makes no sense. I need a new partner to finish that route.
Then there are the hard to remove pieces. I had a wild country cam walk deep into a slot under a roof on Pegasus in the traprock region. After 45 minutes of extraction, the offending piece was ceremoniously tossed into the woods. I will paraphrase his declaration - "You ought to know how to place a cam correctly". None of those words are part of the original quote. People shopping in the mall near the highway hundreds of feet away paused to watch that rumble. Since we were not married at that moment, I don't know how our relationship survived that dispute. There was no dinner and romance following that evening of climbing.
Approaching darkness is another catalyst for crises. Someone should stop you before that one last climb of the day. Double corss in JT ruined one trip. My husband topped out in the dark, very unhappy. Our collective happiness mutiplied as we hunted for the rappel anchor in the darkness. By the time we met our buddy the next day, we had not slept at all as the brouhaha consumed the evening hours. Thankfully we took oppostie ends of the rope for the next several days, allc ommunication was with the intermediary. None was husband to wife.
But when it comes to true epics, we work very well together. Go figure.
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chill
climber
between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
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My wife and I climbed the regular route on Fairview Dome a couple of weeks ago, 23 years after the last time we did it. She hasn't climbed much lately but she was totally into it. If fact, in our 2.5 decades of climbing together I've probably been a wimp more often than her.
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bjj
climber
beyond the sun
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Double corss (sic) in JT ruined one trip
I'm pretty sure that's the one aka "Divorce Court"
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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paralysis
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"Why do guys insist on involving their non-climbing wives in climbing?”
Thinking back to my longest and best relationship during my climbing days, when I met her, she was not a climber, nor even really an outdoors woman, just a random woman whom I met thru college. The main attribute that I held that allowed for us to become close friends and for her to engage in the climbing world is/was RESPECT for who she was. What followed from that was easing her into the outdoors, hiking, camping, and eventually climbing (Monday Morning Slab, then Pt. Beyond), so that our relationship could prosper without stress, and she could discover that she intrinsically liked those activities and could experience joy and appreciation for them. It helped that my climbing buddies (Guido, Hennek, McLean) were supportive and likable and that their ladies also enjoyed climbing.
As a result, we always had joyful climbing experiences, including FAs on Marginal, Mt. Starr King, and Merced Pk., and other adventures. Like others have said, finding a good partner, whether a romantic one or a climbing one, may not be easy, but one can do a lot to create an atmosphere where the potential partnership can grow and flourish.
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