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nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 1, 2014 - 05:18pm PT
Cite your source for me so I can share it with others. Or are these personal photos of yours?
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
sorry Seattle post
also in the news...

Rose McCoy, a 12-year-old activist, made headlines when she jumped the barricade at the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade in November to protest the SeaWorld float. Now, she's planning on speaking out against the amusement park's treatment of whales at the Rose Parade.

"For me, I cannot imagine being separated from my mom to sell tickets to a theme park and being forever captive in a small tank," McCoy tells LAist. "I want every family to know that's what the whales at SeaWorld have to go through."

She flew out from New York to L.A. for the Rose Parade, and along with PETA, will be protesting against the SeaWorld float. A rep from PETA describes the float as depicting "free-living orcas frolicking in the open sea."

More people have been protesting SeaWorld since the release of Blackfish, a documentary that takes an in-depth at the treatment of whales held in captivity at the park. The documentary makes the case that orcas are far too intelligent to be held in captivity, and it spurred McCoy into action.

"For my whole life, I've always been against animals in captivity and Blackfish was more of an educational thing for me about the problems in SeaWorld," she says. "It's one of the larger problems that I know more about to protest."

McCoy jumped the barricade at the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade after she felt the protest PETA planned had fell apart. She stood in front of the line of protesters holding a sign that said, "Boycott SeaWorld," before a police officer brought her back to her mother.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 1, 2014 - 06:00pm PT
oh duh... you stated that. website or paper?

http://www.amazon.com/Private-Label-Orca-Whale-Mailbox/dp/B0002RI2K6

http://www.amazon.com/Co-Union-78-03-036-Killer-Whale-Horn/dp/B002BW3OUI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388616729&sr=8-1&keywords=killer+whale+horn
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2014 - 06:24pm PT
Nature , That was from the newspaper.
Orca mailbox??

Nice Frontline show Locker! I also liked the first one!

19 people were arrested today protesting the SeaWorld float!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 1, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
What's the source of those images?


maybe the story will be on the website tomorrow.
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2014 - 06:29pm PT
I goggled rose bowl SeaWorld protest and the Seattle post article and pictures showed up.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 1, 2014 - 06:33pm PT
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2014 - 06:37pm PT
Great one Nature!
More in the news from the Examiner

Extra security was present for the SeaWorld float and protesters had promised to be vocal. However besides the chanting and stopping the parade for a few minutes, it was overall peaceful. The Rose Bowl Parade is seen on a national level and it was the perfect place to highlight the disliked treatment of the whales.

There hasn’t been word on whether the protesters will be charged for stopping the parade. It’s doubtful as the individuals has so much support in Pasadena. People watching on television might not have seen it, but fans watching the parade were booing when the SeaWorld float rolled by. These folks were the average people who might travel to the theme park to see the animals so it's obvious PETA's message is getting out to the world.

PEOPLE WERE BOOING THE SEAWORLD FLOAT!
Yay !!!
Time for a change SeaWorld!
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
This is particularly awful





SeaWorld, Russia, plus China Equals a Captive Dolphin and Whale Disaster
Posted on November 8, 2013 | By candace_calloway_whiting
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Will some of the recently captured orcas wind up in China?


Orca captures result in the injury, death, and disruption of wild pods (captured for Miami Seaquarium, please see below).
SeaWorld, while claiming that their killer whale shows are an exemplary blend of education and entertainment, has inadvertently managed to teach us that whales don’t belong in captivity, yet simultaneously they have also taught other countries – including countries such as China that have little respect for animal life – that there are huge profits to be had at the animals’ expense.

According to an article by Tim Zimmermann, A Surge In Wild Orca Capture for Killer Whale Shows, Russia’s recent capture of 10 wild orcas may result in some of them going to aquariums in China:

“It seems like China is becoming, or has become, a primary source of the demand for belugas, dolphins, and orcas alike,” says Courtney Vail, Campaigns and Programs Manager for Whale And Dolphin Conservation, which helps sponsor Hoyt’s and FEROP’s work. “Chinese facilities also source from the Taiji dolphin hunts. Twenty-four dolphins were exported from Japan to China in 2012, and CITES trade reports suggest over 60 wild-caught belugas were exported from Russia to China between 2008 and 2010 alone.”

The thought of orcas in Chinese hands is particularly onerous, as that country has no laws to protect animals from cruelty and abuse. That fact, coupled with deeply held superstitious beliefs by large segments of the Chinese population means that animals in that country suffer on all levels – the fur trade, scientific research, medicine, dietary preferences, and amusement. Dogs are baked and boiled alive (thought to taste better), other animals are skinned alive for fur, then sprayed with water to keep them moist until killed for food. Bears are cut to produce bile for Chinese Medicine. (A simple google search will show you more than you want to know on animal cruelty in China.)

Live animals sealed in plastic for key chains, which will be discarded when the animal finally suffocates.

http://youtu.be/UU1XGXMELyw


An orca in a Chinese aquarium may receive better care than most animals there are entitled to, due to the whales’ high price tag as well as to the standards set by other aquariums. In order to belong to an accredited organization, any aquarium or theme park must care for animals by certain minimum standards – but when you think about it, even in the U.S. amusement parks such as the Miami Seaquarium are able to dodge the minimum standards as set by law as well as by the Association of Zoos and Aquariums. In the photo of Miami Seaquarium below, one lone orca has been forced to live in a tank that is substandard in size for over 40 years. (Freelolita.org). As far as I am aware, there are no aquariums on mainland China that are even accredited at this point anyway (there are two in Hong Kong which is independently governed).












http://youtu.be/UU1XGXMELyw
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 1, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
The Honduran government called my father in the 90's because they wanted some dolphins for a research institute.

He responded and caught seven keepers the next week. A hurricane came through shortly after and ripped the pens open.

All the dolphins stayed outside (free!!!) as new pens were rebuilt (3 weeks later). When completed they all swam in and started doing spontaneous tricks!

Just curious explain that?
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 1, 2014 - 10:46pm PT
So your argument is, "END THE CAPTIVITY OF WHALES AND DOLPHINS".

WHY?

Why not harvest them sustainably?

and by harvest I mean butcher or keep in enclosures?

Simple thoughts from a rationale fellow.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 1, 2014 - 10:52pm PT
your two responses are so pathetically disgusting that rather than responding I'm just going to grease you and make it so you don't exist.

Stupid f*#king questions.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 1, 2014 - 10:56pm PT
Nature- I am curious what you are disgusted by? I am happy to elaborate.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 1, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
Nature writes:

"your two responses are so pathetically disgusting that rather than responding I'm just going to grease you and make it so you don't exist."




You could just stick your fingers in your ears, and shout "ME-ME-ME-ME...".

It'd be just as effective, and no less childish.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 1, 2014 - 11:03pm PT
Not childish, but real world. I know, I live in it.

Are you upset I gave you some inside knowledge on Honduran dolphins?

I was simply trying to have a conversation based on facts.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:01am PT
I know this is toxic water, but why not have a fishery for sustainable aquatic mammals?

seal, whale, sea otter, porpoise, dolphin and species that are in healthy population numbers?

Like catching brook tout or cutthroats/ shooting a deer or turkey? Just curious on your thoughts?
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:14am PT
Just curious to talk facts... No harm in looking at them? (the facts) Wish you the best!
shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:21am PT
is is a total crime against nature to keep whales and dolphins in captivity. period. steve schneider
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:24am PT
What if they approve the "Slavery"?
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:31am PT
If a wolf befriends you, it might follow you around. It has every opportunity to leave.

Dolphins have the same ability, they can jump the pen any day off the week.

Is it wrong that they hung around a hurricane destroyed facility?

Aside from that, why are all marine mammals off limits?

Only respond if you have an open mind
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