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David
Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
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Hey Jerry,
Maybe you can answere a question for me. One of my Galen Rowell prints is an artist's proof signed "Galen Rowell/AP". I bought it because it was cheap relative to other prints. My understanding of artist's proofs would lead me to believe that it was to be used a reference point in terms of color fidelity for all subsequent editions. As such it doesn't really make sense that it was priced cheaper. What do you think the thought process is in this case?
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2006 - 12:49pm PT
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How big is it?
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2006 - 01:00pm PT
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I bet it's an 8x10 in an 11x14 matte. Often when you print, multiple proofs are generated before you get to the final print. These A/P prints are cheaper and not part of the edition because they may not be "perfect" but still look really good. They may be smaller than the edition size as well. It's dicey selling these because they raise questions like, how many "proofs" are you selling that aren't part of the edition? It can be abused. Galen was re-mastering many of his images and upgrading to better printing processes, so a lot of proofs were generated. There was certainly market value in them. That probably explains it, but you might want to ask MLP about and see what they say. It's a can of worms. He also offered a print upgrade deal, especially if you had an older, less archival print.
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David
Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
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re."I bet it's an 8x10 in an 11x14 matte."
Yep, it's a small one. I'm sure your explanation is right on the mark. Makes sense. Thanks! Where are you going to climb?
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2006 - 01:10pm PT
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Tuolumne. Coming up? I'll be at Mobile around 8 or 8:30 tonight. Gotta run...
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2006 - 01:16pm PT
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Malabarista, thats a beautiful piece.
Thanks everyone for your information. Its really insightful and helpful. Keep it coming please.
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nlunstrum
Trad climber
Temporary Flatlander from IN.
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Jerry,
Great topic! I recently listened to an interview of Chip Forelli regarding this topic of photographic editions (it's in the recent edition of Lenswork Extended). I thought his prespective was interesting; Forelli (who doesn't edition his work) said that he didn't know any older photographers who regret not editioning their work, but knew many who did regret it in their later years. Many young photographers feel pressured into editions early on by galleries but regrete doing so as they grow older, print production slows and they become increasenly reliant on ealier work to sell.
Here's Chip's site:
http://www.chipforelli.com/
Also another question was raised in the interview; has a photographer ever produced a single, "master" print of something and then torn up the neg? This would be the ultimate "edition" Has anyone ever had the balls to do it? (had their photographic career based on this idea). I don't know anyone, does anyone else?
Nathan
http://www.nd.edu/~nlunstru/home.htm
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Jennie
Trad climber
Salt Lake
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Anybody into stained glass with a climbing theme?
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Phantom Fugitive
Trad climber
Misery
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jennie-I have a bit of a fascination with stained glass.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Salt Lake
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Thanks Phantom. I am fascinated by it too and am trying to get started in it. There's an artist locally who has done some with a climbing motif--if you're interested I can send you an email if you want infomation about him.
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David Nelson
climber
San Francisco
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1. What is on your walls?
A picture of oaks in Yosemite Valley, I bought from the Yosemite Association (I think, it was years ago. I like supporting them), a print of an egret I bought a decade ago in New Orleans; a photo of Half Dome and the route I took up it last summer, 7 framed ferns I collected and pressed myself (I am the nature director for a kid's music camp, on Austin Creek, a tributary of the Russian River, and I collected the ferns there; mounted others and donated them to their fundraising auction), and a deer I got last year in Wyoming:
I love looking at the muley, admiring his beauty, thinking of the hunt last year and looking forward to the one next year
2. Do you collect art?
Yes, if you consider these things art.
3. What medium do you like best/own most of? Why?
You can see the range is wide: photo, fern mounts, deer shoulder mount, a print of an egret.
4. Do you own original art, or are posters/reproductions good enough?
Sometimes I can afford an original, or can create an original, otherwise, reproductions are good enough.
5. Have you ever spent more on a piece of art than the cost of your television?
I have never bought a TV, am using one that is 25 years old that was given to us as a hand-me-down; TV is OK, but it can be dangerous.
6. Do you own any original climbing art, including fine photography/paintings/sculpture, etc.?
Nothing original in climbing art, although I do admire your one of Bliss and the waterfall.
7. Do you support artists you know by buying their artwork?
Don't really know any.
8. Have you ever bought art from a gallery?
Yes, a decade ago.
9. How many times a year do you go into a gallery?
Two or three.
10. Do you prefer to buy directly from the artist?
Yes, as it supports them better; but gallery owners do a lot to support and promote artists, so they need supporting, too.
11. What is the most you would ever consider spending on any piece of art?
Hard to say. I don't think I have spent more than $200, but the deer mount cost $450.
12. What factors influence your decision to buy/not buy art? (personal tastes, price, size...)
If it makes my heart sing.
13. What is your favorite piece of art, or who is your favorite artist? Why?
Is it fair to say Mozart? Listen to his work every day on the radio, really sends me. My kids can play his work (they play cello & violin), I love to sit and listen to them. Not sure if it is just because I am in love with my kids...
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Blitzo
Social climber
Earth
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I collect Wooden sculpture.
and beer cans.
Is that ART?
I sometimes make my photos into art.
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thedogfather
Trad climber
Midwest
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Aug 12, 2006 - 11:38am PT
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I do have 2 pieces of original climbing art work by Jeremy Collins (phantomfugitive). For those not familiar with his work, I think the pics below should give you an idea of his incredible talent. These are the kinds of artists that I love to support and I am priviledged to have been able to get the originals of these two works. I'm certainly far from being an art connoisseur but I know what I like.
Blue Messenger
Mental Physics
Also have and a limited edition bronze climbing sculpture from a non-climber but it really captures climbing movement well.
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