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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 21, 2013 - 10:08pm PT
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hey there say, mouse and all with the neat photo shots...
wow and man oh man, i sure wish those BILLOWS were clouds, to fill with rain and not smoke... oh my...
say--we just got thunder here and are getting a bit of rain...
dear lord, i sure wish and hope rain will move out to you all from
SOMEWHERE.... my mom, also in san jose, got rain last night,
a 'freaky' phenomena' as to aug weather...
she and us all, remember when rain never showed in aug...
wow....
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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Aug 21, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
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Not a "heartwarming" or "cozy" type of fire, it seems.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Aug 21, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
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Wow this thing is cranking -- especially towards the NE.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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Aug 21, 2013 - 11:58pm PT
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It poured rain on our attempt at Sun Ribbon yesterday and today. Also rained almost the whole way home from Bishop to Topaz.
There was a very healthy south -> north flow of precip with not that much lightning. Is none of that moisture landing on the west side of the crest?
Best to all in or near harms way.
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10b4me
Ice climber
Wishes-He-Was-In-Arizona
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:31am PT
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Tropical depression forming south of Baja, but expected to move north early next week, and settling over SE California Sunday /Monday. Hopefully, some of that moisture moves north.
Enough rainfall is expected in the deserts that they are warning of flash floods.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:38am PT
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Maybe donate to the fire crews if you can't sell 'em.
Would be a tasty diversion from the MREs.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:44am PT
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Such a good idea!
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Aug 22, 2013 - 01:22am PT
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Mr K , Two years ago i volunteered at a fire Evacuations center . We accepted all food donations..Including people bringing in food from their gardens...
Was it just the fire crews that said no? Maybe try the Sonora Fairgrounds were the evacuees will be staying .
Khanom edit... http://www.mymotherlode.com/news/local/2218666/Evacuees-At-The-Fairgrounds.html
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John M
climber
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Aug 22, 2013 - 11:54am PT
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from 16000 acres to over 53000 acres in one day. whoa..
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
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munge,
there were big fires back there in '73 and again in 87. but each had a different coverage area. granite basin burned in '73.
judging from this morning's maps, it burned again yesterday. if it heads up the clavey, there's basically nothing to stop it. the fuel loads back there are insane, and there's no good basing territory for the northern perimeter.
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
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I'm trying to understand the map. What do the MODUS-thermal dots mean? Why are there so many outside of what is marked as the "fire perimeter"?
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pvalchev
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
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Does anyone have news on Sawmill Mtn Road/houses there? The map has expanded a bit in that direction.. but still not over it, I don't think? Best of luck to everyone affected!!
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RP3
Big Wall climber
Sonora
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:37pm PT
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The smoke is unbelievable downtown this morning. This pic is from out my front door. Good luck to all those directly affected. Be safe firefighters!
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
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I'm trying to understand the map. What do the MODUS-thermal dots mean? Why are there so many outside of what is marked as the "fire perimeter"?
the map is an approximation of several moments in time that represents heat intensity. you can never see a single fire "line" from above, partly because of the smoke plume but also because a fire like this isn't defined by a single, unified edge.
the fire advances in large part by downdrafts of superheated air and burning material dropping into unburned fuels around the fire's outskirts.
the "line" in many places will be a messy patchwork of burned and unburned fuels, with new fires constantly spring up, some as small as a single manazanita bush, others a few acres, and each of them at some kind of threat for becoming an advance edge of the main body.
since the thing jumped the road, folks have been out there on the ground frickin gunnysacking, trying to extinguish the smaller advance fires.
unreal dangerous. chaotic on the actual ground, with the smoke and terrain. and a fire this large will create its own winds, often unpredictable.
once it jumped the road, there was basically a clear path of heavy fuel to pine mt. lake.
if pine mt. is still there tomorrow morning, it'll be partly because we got really lucky with the winds and weather, and partly because folks on the ground are out there working in hell right now.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
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Thanks for that nice explanation on "modus" klk.
All the fire guys next door are all gone and out there so I couldn't ask them as I didn't know what that meant either .....
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:58pm PT
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Thanks for the explanation and link!
Sending my best wishes to everyone who lives/has property there.
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