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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
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Aug 13, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
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That's correct, Robert. I mentioned that up thread.
Don, I'm sure this stemmed from his El Cap Report blog.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Aug 13, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
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Regarding your long post. It's not mundane. You really are an important part of this tribes history.
CYA soon I hope. Keep holding down the fort
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 13, 2013 - 06:06pm PT
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A pox on all bureaucracies. The Park Service couldn't organize a one car funeral procession.
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Reno, Nevada
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Aug 13, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
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Thanks for the post, Tom. Sorry it went down like that.
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Aug 13, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
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Thanks for the explanation.
Good luck Tom.
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Offset
climber
seattle
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Aug 13, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
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what.. they wouldn't let you be an asset AND and a$#%ole???
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adikted
Boulder climber
Tahooooeeeee
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Aug 13, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
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Tom
Thanks for everything you do..i one day would love to see myself and my friends onthe report... Your photos are inspiring and words poetic.... Thanks again
Greg carlisle
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 13, 2013 - 07:34pm PT
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Hey Tom,
Passing along a message from "Fattrad", he said:
"I talked to Tollefson and more discussions with Tom, NPS, and Ken will happen. Ten minute chat, told him Tom was best for bridge, background of VMI/school teacher. Also gave Ken briefing of Tollefson chat"
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 13, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
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From Fattrad; "Jay, post on the evans thread that i spoke with mike tollefson, more discussion to come about photo ownership and tom's continued service"
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Radish
Trad climber
SeKi, California
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Aug 13, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
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Your a major asset to the climbing community Tom and your pics will stand the test of time! Will you go back and do it again if they make it right?? We hope so. I have totally enjoyed reading your humour and seeing all the teams on the captain! It won't be a Bigwall season without you. Thanks for ALL you have done!
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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Aug 13, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
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Hey Tom,
Having volunteer status is nice, but being a free man is nicer
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Aug 13, 2013 - 08:13pm PT
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Well, sorry the bureaucracy had to go and muck things up as usual.
Sounds like you made a reasonable decision Tom. Give it some time.. They'll probably get a zillion complaints from the seasonal tourons who like having you there. You never know.. they may come around with a new contract at some point.
Good luck and hope to see you soon.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 13, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
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Capt Evans writes:
"I asked what the problem was… they replied that they didn’t really know. I ask what words were considered inappropriate? They didn’t know. I asked what I could do to fix the problem. They didn’t know that either."
Those people should be fired! And right now, too. We can get by just fine without them.
You don't tell someone he's out of line, without letting him know the correct way something should be done.
Even as a peon dishwasher when I was 14, I knew better than to complain to the Boss without at the same time offering up a workable solution to whatever problem I was concerned about.
What a total and complete waste of government resources.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Aug 13, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
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Total bad on NPS Chief Ranger
Pansy/sissy maneuver by the chief dic. Couldn't leave well enough alone. While being a second to Chongo is, to me at least, kind of a badge of honor, I can understand your moving away from the ask the climber program and the NPS.
Nothing stopping you from just showing up and taking photos for the world to see, but also see how that could send up being an expensive move as well.
Here's hoping the report lives on and I see you at the bridge again
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 13, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
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I just checked, and I have photos of National Parks, and they're FOR SALE, too. ( check with Getty Images, if you have any extra cash burning holes in your pockets )
I have NEVER gotten a permit for commercial photography, mainly because I'm not a good enough photographer to actually compose a shot. I just take hundreds of pictures, and weed out all but maybe a couple to keep. Once in a Blue Moon, one sells. I'm sure as hell not going to go apply for a permit to cover something I already did.
I was under the understanding that the Parks belong to all of us ( so long as your taxes are paid up ), and that I don't need permission to sell a picture of Intersection Rock any more than I need a permit to sell shots of my own house.
If NPS wants my photos, they'll have to come get them in person, and then they'll have to deal with Getty.
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fat-n-sassy
Social climber
San Francity, CA
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Aug 13, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
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Tom,
I love the report and your photos. Thank you for your hard work and dedication.
You may use my name to register at camp 4 whenever you like.
fat 'n' sass
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 13, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
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Who here has not been Alias Smith And Jones, to stay a few extra weeks at Camp 4 ? It's not like you're trying to avoid paying.
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T2
climber
Cardiff by the sea
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Aug 14, 2013 - 12:39am PT
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This is a Major Tom photo from when he was still shooting actual film back in 97' I believe. I got two rolls of kodachrome from a friend who Tom gave them to when the connection was made. Those were the first El Cap photos I have ever had from that perspective and angle from the meadow or the bridge, I was so stoked to see those slides.
Thanks Tom I have a small library of ascents from 16 years back from you.
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Onewhowalksonrocks
Mountain climber
In the middle of the ocean
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Aug 14, 2013 - 01:47am PT
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Well I for one thought this ASK a Climber Program wasn't good for climbers in the long run. For all the work done to live under the radar this program focused and publicized our style of living. Which as some of you may know the NPS, Joe public and DNC just don't get it or like it.
So, sorry for Tom that something he enjoyed doing has now caused him some pain.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Aug 14, 2013 - 08:17am PT
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So you can still do the El Cap report but don't have to deal with tourists and “Ask A Climber” program?
Sounds like a good deal all around, you don't have to answer questions and can focus more on your photos.
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