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john hansen
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Jul 25, 2013 - 12:42am PT
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I must admit that after living in Hawaii for the last 25 years I forget that the environment can kill you.
Last spring I was in Tucson and it was only 93 degree's with 4 % humidity.
Went to sabino canyon and started hiking the trail intending to just go a mile up to the creek. After a hundred yards or so I realized I had left the water in my car.. went back and got it. It was funny because as I passed a couple of guys hiking out, they were talking about how every year there are tourist who die out there. Something about high heels ...
Can't hardly imagine 108 or so.
Then up at Tahoe at my brothers house we took a short hike in the morning up blackwood canyon. The road was still closed but you could hike in.
29 deg in the shade , wearing shorts and a sweatshirt, it's like friggen COLD!!
I grew up in the out doors and was always prepared. My brother and I used to go out when a storm was coming thru with just one of those old military surplus half shelter and one match. just for fun. We would carve some Fuzz sticks and try to find some dry tinder and a few sticks from a dry spot under a leaning tree or what not. we always spit the match in half so we would have two tries. I don't think we ever failed to get a fire going.
I can imagine someone without much experience getting in trouble in a hurry in either of those situations.
I used to hike all over the place and never worry about getting lost, but now I make sure I look back once in a while and keep my bearings. And I always carry a lighter.
I would not drive through Death valley with out at least a couple gallons of water.
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10b4me
Ice climber
Wishes-He-Was-In-Arizona
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Jul 25, 2013 - 10:42am PT
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Unfortunately, the various government agencies, NPS, USFS, BLM, are forced to cater to the masses, i.e., hold their hand(s).
As someone said up thread, whatever happened to personal responsibility?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 25, 2013 - 11:26am PT
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Toker V. writes:
"I liked how on the roads in Switzerland they put crosses on the road for everyone who died on the upcoming turn."
They do that in Mexico too.
It's for people whose Spanish isn't so good. For a lot of Americans, "curva peligrosa" may as well be Spanish for "Burma Shave".
So when you're driving there, always slow down slow enough to count the crosses. Two or three crosses means you can fly right past, that's not such a dangerous curve. But if you see a dozen crosses, you need to slow down enough to get an accurate count.
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cuvvy
Sport climber
arkansas
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Jul 25, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
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KRAHMES.
You've got a long sleep ahead of you.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 25, 2013 - 04:46pm PT
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Yeah, if I didn't know some spanish I might think curva peligrosa meant "muffin top".
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