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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Don't do it. The docs put me on prozac when I was 13. It made me all f*cked up. Really, don't do it.
What does she enjoy?
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
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Hey, JHB, I wasn't aiming my comments at what you posted and am sorry if it appeared that way. My comments were in response to the OP.
But your point is well taken -- I am not a therapist nor a doctor -- I can only speak to my own experiences.
After some self-reflection after reading your post above, I think I reacted strongly to the OP for a number of reasons, but mainly because I learned about a year ago that my birth dad committed suicide and I still feel sadness about this -- a successful suicide is forever -- no second chances. I DON'T believe that prescription drugs should be a first choice, and I believe that they are tremendously over-prescribed. Having observed first-hand a very young relative that was put on ADHD and sleep meds before the age of 8 years old, and who is now in college, still unable to function without both (and now on seriously strong sleep meds), it is still inconceivable to me that the parents never bothered to try adjusting diet and exercise because it took too much effort. Also, I spent 40+ years of my life ashamed of feeling depressed, with parents that towed the line of "just get it together -- you're just not trying hard enough" -- and I believed it..
The medical impacts of celiac disease and anorexia are in may ways very similar -- they both create serious imbalances in nutrition, which in turn create drastic changes in the levels of neurotransmitters in the brain. I lived in shame of my eating disorder my entire life. It wasn't until about a year and a half ago, after getting "glutened" for the first time after having eliminated grains from my diet completely, that I put celiac disease and eating disorders together. The rebound effect after getting exposed to gluten creates a massive nutritional deficit -- my body was so desperate for food that I barely felt able to control my urges to eat gluten-containing foods. This wild, out-of-control feeling toward food is the basis for various eating disorders, but I never made the connection until I had been glutened and had to fight the very primal urges to consume foods that would wreak even greater havoc on my system if I gave in.
Perhaps my empathy for the plight the OP's daughter is overly strong -- but I remember that period of my life in painful detail, and wanted to simply offer what I have to give. My God, I hope she's doing alright.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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The world is in a strange place today.
Instead of struggling to survive against dangers of life, the current generations seeks a better form of entertainment and social acceptance. Thus it is no wonder that humans are having so many troubles.
"Chemical Imbalance" is a big pharma marketing line. The reality is that there is not scientific study to support this. It seems sensible because if you pour alcohol, a chemical, in you body, it seems to make a big affect on the mind in many ways.
We are in an age of "blood letting" and "leeches" to cure problems of the mind. At last, the mainstream is waking up to this:
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/2013/05/04/psychiatry-in-crisis-mental-health-director-rejects-psychiatric-bible-and-replaces-with-nothing/
A drug with a side-affect of suicide sounds like a very poor cure for suicidal thoughts.
I certainly hope you can find a solution as a result of honest communication.
I've got a bag full of solutions here but it's a complicated problem that requires much more than an internet forum discussion. There are no "instant" buttons or easy fixes, usually.
Here is one easy one: Vitamin B1 is a stress fixer. (Thamin) I like the TwinLab brand in a powder in gel caps. If she's feeling stressed giver her 500 MG and in about half an hour she'll enjoy about 2 hours of normal.
I used to give 100 mg cap to my kids when they woke up with nightmares or just got scared at night. Works like charm.
Now that is the quick fix. If you find it works you'll need to have her get a whole regimen of vitamins because they need to be balanced. A calcium supplement is needed to go with it if you are going to use it on a regular basis.
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verticalbound
Trad climber
Anchorage
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lexapro is a good one. I didnt read very much of any of the posts but from a personal stand point any predisposition you have towards an opinion of something like depression or any of the severely misdiagnosed and complicated personality disorders out there is probably wrong and severely ignorant, you need to talk to your daughter, and get her to do her own research, she needs to figure out what is is she has wrong with herself, self understanding is a big deal, I have severe depression & anxiety issues as well as having borderline personailty disorder and have almost never taken medication(except for anxiety) coping is hard, and even harder if you feel like everyone has already made judgement of your issues without ever walking a mile in your shoes, people comment on those that have killed themselves while on prozac or other medicines... medicine for personality disorders doesnt solve sh#t like an antibiotic for an infection just cause you take it does not mean the symptoms disappear they might help but you still suffer. The strongest point to be made is its a chemical thing, when your brain refuses to work right even when you know its wrong, even when you can acknowledge that the way you feel is rediculous and doesnt make sense youre still a victim to your own disfunction and still viably in danger of hurting yourself in spite of what you want.
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