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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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I am probably being overdramatic.
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J. Werlin
Social climber
Cedaredge, CO
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Chinchen-- with Werner you have to elevate things to a level he understands.
Try: I'm rubber and your glue. Whatever you say bounces of me and sticks to you.
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TheSoloClimber
Trad climber
Vancouver
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James - that is one of the most intense climbing stories I have ever read.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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You need to know when to stop.
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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...I thought I did Jeremy... ;)
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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i am as bad as anyone else at being interested in this....but it seems totally wrong to glorify soloing. The pic of Derek on Mr. Clean. I suppose it is 11a but it is a very easy climb for someone at their finest, in the zone. but derek died on something easier than this. we should all take pause in that.
as for the dude that fell and survived in JT. i would be embarrassed were i him. thats just me. getting press out of something so sinister as to almost dieing, well, hell...anyone can can die.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2013 - 09:33pm PT
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as for the dude that fell and survived in JT. i would be embarrassed were i him. thats just me. getting press out of something so sinister as to almost dieing, well, hell...anyone can can die.
You are right - I have some extended family members dying of complications from extreme obesity. That is right, they eat so much that they are dying from it, slowly, and they can't stop.
Suddenly it seems like friends and heroes of people on this site enjoying adventure and their passion isn't such a big problem... every day is a solo, every freeway, every lead - risk is ever present in life, it is ever present in climbing.
Soloists aren't dying right and left. A few good friends of ours have lost their lives to it, just like mountaineering, alpinism, lowering off the rope... climbing is f*#king dangerous. Don't think your danger is better than James'. He put his heart out there and told everyone how it happened, exactly as it happened.
I would be embarrassed to have never truly lived.
edit - not really talking to Hawkeye per say, he has a valid opinion.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Soloists aren't dying right and left. A few good friends of ours have lost their lives to it, just like mountaineering, alpinism, lowering off the rope... climbing is f*#king dangerous. Don't think your danger is better than James'. He put his heart out there and told everyone how it happened, exactly as it happened.
I would be embarrassed to have never truly lived.
there is a very fine line between living and dieing. only you can choose. i am not pretending to choose for anyone other than to caution those who do not understand the difference.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Sierra Ledge Rat on Patio.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Coz,
You're wrong, James suffered Brain Damage from his Fall, so he is in fact stupider than the rest of us. He also walks funny, but not in the good funny way. In a few years he'll need one of these.
https://thehurrycane.com
The only reason Alex Hannold hangs out with James is to remind him of the consequence of failure.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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i am not hating on anyone, assuming that response was directed at me.
i am totally psyched that someone is alive and climbing who lucked out. luck, thats what it is in his case to be alive and with us.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
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You are right hawkeye, sorry I saw that through my whatever-tinted glasses and painted it as judgemental. Have a great evening :)
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WBraun
climber
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One day we were at Noby Wall.
I set a top rope.
Coz always free solos it.
He's ready to go and tell him to tie in.
He asks why and I say because it's there so big fuking deal tie in because it's set up already and won't hurt ya.
He's hesitant and finally reluctantly ties in and I belay him.
He gets up to the crux and breaks off the crucial hold and falls onto my belay.
His number wasn't up that day ...... :-)
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James
climber
My twin brother's laundry room
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Hawkeye-
Luck is the wrong word. Somewhere between my 7th and 8th week of laying in a hospital bed, Dean Fidelman and Lucho visited me. Dean spun around in a hospital wheel chair performing wheelies occasionally.
"Man, I can't believe you survived," Lucho said, "you got lucky."
"You are not lucky," Dean told me. "You are fortunate. If you were lucky you would not have fallen. You would have topped out gone to Vegas, won a million bucks and done blow off a hooker's ass. You are fortunate-you survived"
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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"You are not lucky," Dean told me. "You are fortunate. If you were lucky you would not have fallen. You would have topped out gone to Vegas, won a million bucks and done blow off a hooker's ass. You are fortunate-you survived"
very good attitude......i sincerely applaud you for that.
but in 20 years when you have seen your kids bouncing off your knee your perspective might have changed.
hats off to you regardless.
i know that i soloed things that at this point in my life were foolish. i was lucky, but i can only really comment about me and my skills at the time.
that pic of Derek on Mr Clean...when i climbed Mr Clean I never felt more solid....it could have been an easy solo.....and while i did some near that league, i was lucky.....but i can only comment on my own self.
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James
climber
My twin brother's laundry room
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And in 20 years, when you have seen your children walk away from your knee uninterested, showing total disdain for your boring life, your prospective may change too.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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lol
you are young........
there is much to see and learn even from those who you must disdain today.....
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SicMic
climber
two miles from Eldorado
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I've only fallen a couple times, which is twice more than most get. Never had a camera around for the hard stuff, just the fun ones. (thanx SM for the Derek shot, one of my faves)
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Al_T.Tude
Trad climber
Monterey, CA
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Regarding free soloing- falling early is often the best strategy.
- Jim Donini
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