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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:04pm PT
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No, it's called capitalism.
Everybody shoulda voted for Meth Romney. I bet those boys didn't pay taxes either and clearly a job was created.
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splitter
Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:06pm PT
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Does anybody recall the story about the d00d that was rifling tents and stealing sh#t from c4 that got fingered as the culprit and a bunch of the boys took him up to the top of the Captain and gave him quick instructions in the use of prussick knot's, then tied him into the end of a 150 mm haul line and booted him off the top?
True story, from what I recall. It could be heard being repeatedly told at many a late night campfire in c4, bitd. Weren't many more c4 thefts after that!
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:06pm PT
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I know that Bonnie the original owner of Crossroads cafe had her house broken into more than once. She lost not only valuables but memories, she was very broken hearted from the experience. JTree isn't a nice place for visitors or the locals. I say never leave your stuff in sight, try to carry the important stuff with you, stuff you don't need leave it at home. If you can, park your car in sight, etc. If something is not replaceable, don't bring it to Jtree. This goes for all climbing locations.
Remember, no climbing stickers on your car. If you have stickers, you are declaring that your trunk/cab is full of gear. Don't leave anything in sight. If you have a bag, let it be a beat up duffel, not a pig or fancy pack. Keep important stuff on person and... If you can't, you should have it locked in the trunk and out of sight. Don't lay it out for everyone to see. Don't leave any good stuff in the tent either. I had a friend show up to his campsite to find it all gone, packed out. When I camp in JTree I bring my old, crappy tent. The one that can still handle weather but was mended with duct tape and aqua seal. I use to have an old crappy car which made me look unappealing. Too bad I don't have that anymore. I always pack all my good stuff away after use and... I lock, keep the car near. Sometimes I even bring the German Shepherd. She's an awesome buddy/deterrent.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:09pm PT
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True story, from what I recall.
Does Licky know about this?
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:17pm PT
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They hate free thinking climbers because they generally have IQs in the 80s and have no critical thinking skills.
You do realise I have a Doctorate, a Pigs hankering Donuts degree, in this area or academic study?
You may have, but your grammar is fuzzy in that sentence, as was pointed out! Strunk & White would not be amused....
I have no advanced degree, but am fairly certain that would have been better written as "Cops hate free thinking climbers because they generally have IQs in the 80s, have no critical thinking skills, and thus...(provide some factual reason you feel the low IQ and lack of critical thinking skills correlates with a hatred of free thinkers."
Or did you mean to write "They hate free thinking climbers because climbers generally have IQs in the 80s and have no critical thinking skills."?
I would also point out that I think it is really not a quality behavior to make such a blanket statement, about any group.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:22pm PT
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So, eKat, is the one I heard true? Supposedly some wannabe was getting
really obnoxious - just short of criminally so. The regulars poured a pan
of bacon grease on his tent in the wee hours and the Obnoxious One awoke to
#46 shredding his tent. Probably apocryphal* but being a mere occassional visitor
from the Great and Gullible Northwest I took it for the truth, although it
did not set me free.
*It was recounted to me by Bruce Hawkins and we all know he would have
never embellished any story, right?
In all honesty I could see Bruce dangling someone off the top of the Cap'n.
He did have principles, bless his departed soul.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:26pm PT
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I know plenty of fools with high IQs and many brilliant kind useful folks that most would say are not very bright. Intelligence is relative to how someone uses his/her abilities.
Yes, I am married to a brilliant doctor but it's not his education that makes him brilliant. It's his ability to be wrong, the ease he corrects himself, his light speed learning curve. That is something we all are capable of but few with our egos can handle. This is the main skill that Bill has that amazes me everyday. That and his ability to put me in my place. That's amazing too, seriously before him only my Dad was able to accomplish that. :)
Anyway... I think gun shots are way more important than a bag full of gear being stolen. One is loss of things replaceable. The other... Life and death, not replaceable. Got to hand it to cops who go where guns are blazing which usually are pointed at them.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:29pm PT
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Speaking of "Blanket Parties".
Some stupid ass Curry employee got a "Blanket Party" by someone.
This retard somehow thought it was me who did it?
I have no clue how he came about with this stupid idea.
Warbler remembers?
The guys said he's going to find me some night and kick my ass, LOL.
The stupid fuker was dreaming.
Anyways it turned out his roommates did it from the dorms because he narced them for smoking some weed.
Stupid sh!t ......
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:33pm PT
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Are you eating crispy creams at this moment?
You do realise I have a Doctorate, a Pigs hankering Donuts degree, in this area or academic study?
Regarding the first, I have never sampled a Crispy Cream. I haven't eaten a donut in as long as I can recall. I have never eaten a fast food burger for that matter, ever not even one.
Regarding the second, please translate into English?
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:36pm PT
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I have never eaten a fast food burger for that matter, ever not even one.
yer parents were obviously abusive.
heh
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:52pm PT
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If by "curry employee" do you mean "ropes," and by "blanket party" did you mean "poo poo party?"
I've known a few guys to spend several consecutive seasons in the valley, I think they call it "Scurvy" or something....
;D
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Epic E
Big Wall climber
CA
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:55pm PT
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F*#k the police!
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splitter
Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 26, 2012 - 09:01pm PT
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eKat - ? I also recall the "Blanket Party" stories, etc! But the ElCap 'toss the thief' story was well prior to that.
I first heard it in '71! It's a tale from the Golden Era days. Cudda' happened as late as the Spring of '71, though (when i first heard it). It involved the hard as nails 'f*#k nuts & chocks place only iron' (pitons) era fellas! I do recall one of them (i believe it was "Hawkins") coming up and making a point of slamming pins in to protect those first crux moves on Midterm one afternoon (in the front of a bunch of us n00bs / clean climbing hippy geeks)! The real old timers. Hawkins wasn't all that old, but he hung with them and obviously retained a few of their traits (at that point in time, anyway)!
At first, I suspected it was a rumor, but eventually came to believe it as truth & a legendary 'nip the problem in the bud' actions of the REAL and original Yose hardmen/badazz'! ... everyone else, everyone who came later, is just a wannabe, imo!!
EDIT: Whether truth or myth, whenever they were retold around the campfire late at night, they seemed to spread like wildfire, the MESSAGE started circulating, and IF someone was considering lifting yer gear ... they wud give it a reconsider and it prollie wudn't happen!
NAHMEAN!!!
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 26, 2012 - 09:21pm PT
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F*#k the police!
Being the husband of a former Sacramento PD officer, I fully agree with your sentiments.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Nov 26, 2012 - 09:31pm PT
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Last year I was driving past the new police/sheriff station 1 mile east of Nomad. (Where they put a traffic light in to serve this sprawl - it should have been built close to the town center using an existing traffic light)
As I approached the light it suddenly turns yellow and I brake hard to a stop. There was no cross traffic to have triggered the light. Once I come to a stop I see a cop car sitting back 1/2 block up the cross street. Obviously he has triggered the light on purpose with his emergency transmitter, in order to toy with traffic, and hopefully create a violation.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Nov 26, 2012 - 09:33pm PT
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Ksolem.....3 points for that comeback...!
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Nov 26, 2012 - 09:57pm PT
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Splater, really? Are you one of those Trolls that everyone is so wound-up about? You think the light for the Hi Desert Medical Center is fooling with you? Or for that matter that the Police Station or Hospital are new? Gimme' a break. Where has this thread drifted to?
I'm very glad the dude got his gear back and let us know of the unsavory locals found when ordering a California Burrito from Santana's. Thieves are not Muy Bueno! I'm also not exactly sure I would have let him skate without reporting to the cops. Contrary to what seems to be the opinion on the Taco I find our local Police to be wonderful servants going above and beyond. Not notifying them limits their ability to watch and monitor known areas of crime.
Nonetheless, I appreciate the heads up as we often dump a car down-town before heading into the park. Also, it's of my opinion and hope that the poster will reconsider and give the cops a call with a recap of events.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Nov 26, 2012 - 10:24pm PT
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62 is obviously a speed trap on weekends. if you live in the high desert, you learn that the chps all show up on friday and sweat the weekenders. another good reason not to go up to the monument on a saturday.
but ive had a couple friends in sb and rivco sheriffs. rough job. pretty isolated. not the kind of daily routine to bring out the best in people.
there are many things left in my life i hope to do. but driving up to a pit bull ranch on the mesa or burns canyon, armed with a shotgun, to do an eviction or or spousal, is not in the top ten thousand.
for the op, susan is right about the report. locker is right about the stickers. file it, move on, and buy a lockbox for the truck bed.
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susan peplow
climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Nov 26, 2012 - 10:27pm PT
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"locker is right about the stickers. file it, move on, and buy a lockbox for the truck bed."
Agreed Kerwin! But the way I read the thread the poster was well aware that moving forward, people are not always good and will Lock his sh#t up!
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splitter
Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Nov 26, 2012 - 10:35pm PT
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A friend and climbing partner of mine, Dave Stutzman (RIP) got ALL his stuff stolen from c4 in the late Spring of '75! He was up on the SoH route on ElCap and somebody drove up and pulled his pegs on his tent and bagged it and everything in it. Had everything he owned in it that he didn't have on the wall. Plus a bunch of my sh#t that he was holding for me until I got back from San Diego! Which included my haulbag with a bunch of my climbing gear, tent, etc, in it. They caught the d00d, but kept our stuff for 9-12 months as evidence, for the trial, before they returned it! Kinda bogus, imo! but at least we got it back!
Was a bad place to set up camp in c4, on the side nearest the road. They prollie scouted the area first, then drove up at nighttime, or, were in c4 and new he wasn't there and grabbed it as they left the Valley one evening.
I would have had no regrets hiking to the top of el cap, tying him in and handing him a pair of prusicks while wishing to him gudluck and suggesting to him that he might wanna kiss his ass goodbye, just before we tossed him ... just in case the rope, since it had long since been retired, didn't hold! B'cuz, for all the sh#t he put us through, i would have called us even, after that! No p0lice, no c0urt, no judge, no delay in getting our sh#t back. etc., ... just, justice!
Edit: but of course, I'm not like that anymore (el cap tosser), since I'm an Xtian now! lol
btw, our tents alone were worth over $500 bucks (total) a lot of money if you figure in inflation! Dave had a NF St, Elias & I had a NF Mountain Tent.
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