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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 16, 2012 - 02:39pm PT
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"All you atheists better hope you are right."
why?
is something terrible supposed to happen to atheists, please elaborate?
"I just pray for their souls on a daily basis"
I seriously doubt that
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Aug 16, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
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Hi Norton,
hope your well.
I was just quoting Jody from the second or third page upthread.
I also was wondering why ?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 16, 2012 - 02:48pm PT
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yeah fish, I got that
just using your quotes for convenience!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 16, 2012 - 02:49pm PT
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…so frightening when those Mexican Mormon Mango fanatics enunciate supremacy of mango cheesecake over American apple pie. +3 Jennie!
Why did god create atheists? If it's to test believers, I hope we (atheists) get our reward for playing along......oops.....
Actually, I stayed out of this thread till it went astray, ( though it was almost immediate), and hoped the op would get the responses he was looking for, as I thought it would be interesting to read. You guys could ignore the static and answer the points set forth. It really was a good premise.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 16, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
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As one of the ones insisting, I think you're in a better position to do that, chief.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:00pm PT
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thinking a little about the OP's purpose of this thread.....
well, why not a special thread dedicated solely to Christian faith?
we got lots of special threads
bird thread
politics thread
friday night drinking thread
etc
but then maybe we need an Atheist only thread, to balance it out...........
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:00pm PT
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Christians seem to be some of the pushiest zealots out there.
Keep your god to yourself, please.
I respect your right to belief, respect my right to question. I live a good, caring, thoughtful life and will fare just as well as you when we all get buried.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:02pm PT
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but then maybe we need an Atheist only thread, to balance it out...........
Is Nothing, sacred?
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:02pm PT
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spider, i am going to pray for a change in your heart when it comes to gospel music. i forgive you for the gram parsons reference. it's not easy, but i am trying.
all i can do is testify:
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:04pm PT
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God please save me from your people!
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Nibs
Trad climber
Humboldt, CA
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
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Silver, thank you for posting that vid. good for her; she gets it.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:45pm PT
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Thanks Jody,
I am not offended and I am happy for anyone to pray for me.
I do love God and show no prejudice.
The comments are trying to stick towards the thread title.
Enjoy the hills its great that you get out as often as you do.
Best,Gregg
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
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I fail to see what is wrong with me praying for you and I fail to see what is wrong with asking atheists whether they are sure they are right or not.
I don't see anything wrong with it either. There are religious zealots, but there are also atheist zealots.
My answers to the OP:
1. What happened that lead you to follow the trail to Jesus? How did you find your faith?
Nothing happened. He hasn't lead me to His trail yet.
2. How does God help you deal with life? What do you have that helps you to take comfort in the Christian Life?
He hasn't helped me deal with life and I have no sign that He even exists.
3. What is your affiliation? Catholic, Methodist, or perhaps a local Church or person you would like to acknowledge? Perhaps you follow Jesus from afar, unaffiliated with any group.
Unaffiliated.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
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sorry nita. heh
always wondered how the stones would've done had they partied with billy joe shaver instead
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
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rupple - I like this these guys take on religion.
You should update their "take on religion".
As I reflect back,. Megadeath, Anthrax & Metallica where my favorite metal bands through out the the 80's & I still listen to Metallica (just sayin).
Dave Mustaine still fronts Megadeath (dude IS Megadeath) and as you probably well know, is now a Christian! The same goes for Scott Ian (founding member of Anthrax) who also still tours with Anthrax & has also made public his relationship with Christ. Along with a host of others (Brian Welch & James Shaffer from KoRn, for instance).
Just for the record, imo, (and in Christs opinion, for that matter) "religion" sucks. Anyone who has read the four Gospels with an open mind will have come to that conclusion. The first "religion" that successfully hijacked Christ's teachings effectively subdued and practically destroyed them for a millennium.
And I agree with Tobias in regards to politics, especially when it is meshed with religion. You can't force Christianity upon anyone, it is a personal relationship, and few will find it. It has taken on a whole different slant here in America over the last 2-3 decades...sad to say.
And neither can you force ideals, particularly Christ's, upon anyone. They may be successful in changing laws, but they will not change hearts.
America is headed down it's own path, headed towards it's own destiny (which doesn't look favorible, imo) and politics mixed with religion will only hasten it!
Chinchin -- Very sorry to here about the negative results in regards to your upbringing, etc., it would be very difficult being raised as a "pastors" son in many regards. I am not familiar with your personal account, but have heard or read about or personally witnessed many others over the years, Franklin Graham's for instance. For him, and everyone else, it's a personal thing, no matter how much has been heaped upon you in your youth or otherwise. I imagine there are a lot of expectations laid upon a pastors son, FG's particularly. Each has to, come to their own conclusions in life regarding who JC was and is. Unfortunately, parents, religion and society in general, can have a negative impact as well as a positive one, but, ultimately, it is a personal decision that we are all accountable for! And as far as that goes, my personal experience as a youth with the religion known as Catholicism was, for the most part, a negative one. I had to come to my own decision of who JC was, no matter what someone else or some religion had turned Him into!
edit: Silver & Jingy, that vid you posted with the message from Emanuella was excellent. That is what it is all about, what Christ is all about, He both demonstrated and said it "But the greatest of these is love." Like Cosmic (and Christ) stated, it is the two great commandments that are important, the bottom line so to speak! But it takes awhile for some of us to get it, we tend to forget about the overwhelming flow of love and forgiveness that filled us initially, and self get's in the way...sigh!!
BTW, I have followed this since the OP first posted it last night and there have been many good questions and responses (besides the usual uproar) ...just sayin!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 16, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
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Christians, and indeed adherents of all beliefs, would be easier to stomach if they weren't often so sanctimonious. The practice of 'praying' for someone they didn't know, or who was known to be a pantheist, athetist or agnostic, and then boasting about it here, being a good example. If you must do it, do it in private.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Aug 16, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
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if i get to heaven and peter is all, "we're gonna listen to country emo for eternity," i swear to god ima kill somebody.
or maybe start suspecting that something has gone terribly, terribly wrong. wait, is that really peter? and is that the marx brothers over there? oh oh ....
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