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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 28, 2011 - 11:28am PT
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Money might not be but fame and its trappings certainly seems high on the list.
I'm happy for him if he did it for its own reward and on his own but that is
clearly not the case. And as for saving the world from junk food, please,
I'd buy a fat kid in Compton a greaseburger before I'd give a dime to under-
write his climbing jaunts.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Dec 28, 2011 - 11:29am PT
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I believe that climbing all over the world is something that's earned, or at least undertaken when you can appreciate it. there's plenty of hard routes in the sierras or cascades if he was motivated to climb for climbing sake, instead he does this sh#t to get into the record books? f*#k that. Now if he ends up becoming a really solid climber who puts up rad FA's in impeccable style than I'll eat my words and end up worshiping him like the other climbing gods. However until that happens I really don't care and I sure as hell am not going to donate money to his parents bullshit record books empire.
LOL The kid's motivation to climb those peaks was to get useless onliners like you to worship him lol can't believe I am still reading this garbage
He never indicated that he was better than Steve House, did he? Everyone knows that 7 summits is mostly difficult hiking and some scrambling on fixed ladders lol. No body can make someone go up Everest/Denali if they do not feel like going up it. I can't believe his parents made him do it, I simply think the kid wanted it. Lots of haters on this thread. Being young, well off, and successful aint easy! : )))))
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Pass the Chongo, Chongo
Social climber
camped on P3 of WOS
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Dec 28, 2011 - 12:00pm PT
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keep on ball-cuppin ya'll!!!!
PEACE!!!
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johngenx
climber
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Dec 28, 2011 - 12:06pm PT
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I find it interesting that people assume the goal is driven by the parents. Kids are not all mindless morons that let their parents push them around.
A lot of the posts on this thread are pretty embarrassing if they're being made by actual climbers. I thought our fraternity had a far lower percentage of as#@&%es.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Dec 28, 2011 - 12:56pm PT
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Lolz. Only a dozen posts before some numbnuts breaks out the tired ass, played out, can't contstruct an actual reply or argument, "Haterz" trope.
Good for the young man, he put in the hard work and accomplished a nice big goal of taking guided hikes up peaks at high elevation. Maybe Tan Slacks can take the youngster out for some actual climbing one of these days, there's plenty of climbing up there in Big Bear, and he seems keen.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 28, 2011 - 03:34pm PT
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Climibing the 7 summits is nothing more than a rich middle aged man's ego trip. I don't know why it has become such a phenomenon worth chasing, other than media, paid motivational speaking tours and bragging rights. Sad to see it's devolved into another "youngest to do it" phenomenon.
Good porters, guides and lots of supplemental oxygen and most people with good cardio training can do it. Oh, and money. Lots of it.
Yet sadly really amazing true climbing accomplishments in the Karakoram, Patagonia, Greenland, etc fall by the wayside for crap like this.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Dec 28, 2011 - 03:35pm PT
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Many of our big range climber, almost all I know have major family money.
Agreed.
To be honest though, no dirtpoor people can afford to be climbers. From the pictures on other threads here it looks like majority of those "yosemite dirtbags" from back in the day were little spoiled hippie children that took their mama's bug for a summer vacation in the valley. If your family is dirt poor you can't do that, you need to get a job and work. Although, of course there were some cases that were real poor guys without family support of any kind and climbing all the time because they loved it.
Since I was 14 I worked for my money. I was not able to go to Yosemite, or do any outdoor stuff till I got my education, profession, and started a real job. Now I have enough to buy cams/climbing gear and support my trips, but still not wealthy by any means. Still not gonna point fingers at the kid and say he is a little sh#t with money. You still have to move your two feet to those summits, and no one is DRAGGING your ass up there as some posters said. 15 year olds still get driven to school by they mamas, why is it a crime for one to have a guide? LOL
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Dec 28, 2011 - 03:37pm PT
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You guys do not think that visiting these places (different countries, experiencing cultures from 7 continents, checking out 7 ranges, training hard for it mentally/physically) at such a young age is uncool? Yup, better pick up the bong and play some video games!
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 28, 2011 - 03:58pm PT
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VM, stop...just stop.
If this kid wanted to be a serious mountaineer he has the entire Sierra Nevada within driving range. Do a winter trip up Whitney. Without a guide, o2, porters, etc. Why not? That's some major props at any age.
At 10 years old he decided to do 7 summits....really? Who even knows about those things except rich guys going through mid life crisis trying to feel bold?
If he wanted to be a mountaineer he is living in a place where he has one of the best ranges of mountaineering this side of Seattle. This was obviously a race to be the "first" (youngest) and those things are really sad to me. Just reaks of desperation for attention. That's sad.
And BTW, I'm sure there have been plenty of 15 year olds who have done proud winter ascents in the Sierra, they just don't put up websites advertising it.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Dec 28, 2011 - 04:10pm PT
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A 10 years old he decided to do 7 summits....really? Who even knows about those things except rich guys going through mid life crisis trying to feel bold?
It is whatever you make it. I take it you never been there, and never experienced the joy of traveling to all 7 continents.
I will be honest if someone paid for a permit for me to go up Everest, I'd do it. For pure experience. Not for bragging rights, I do not think there is much to brag about there.
If this kid wanted to be a serious mountaineer he has the entire Sierra Nevada within driving range. Do a winter trip up Whitney. Without a guide, o2, porters, etc.
Maybe he did that as one of his prep climbs. Maybe he hikes up peaks in Sierra often, and doesn't care about being considered as a serious mountaineer. Maybe he only has time during summer for one big trip and rest he spends studying etc? Who knows. All I know is that to go far from home you need to sell out to get real good sponsorships. My hat is off to whoever goes out and does anything aside from bashing others online.
Have you done Whitney in winter or by any of the non dog routes Flouride? What have you done that is amazing?
those things are really sad to me.
:`(
VM, stop...just stop.
MEH LOL
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 28, 2011 - 04:15pm PT
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"Given that many if not most real climbers are at least part time list-chasers and tick-boxers?"
I love you Dingus but no. When I wanted to climb a 5000M peak, I headed to Peru and not Denali. No glory or headlines, just did it for myself and the awesome experience.
And you know I am a real climber. :)
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Dec 28, 2011 - 04:19pm PT
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And you know I am a real climber. :)
Which peak and which route in Peru?
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 28, 2011 - 04:22pm PT
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Vitaly, Are you really questioning my climbing? Not around here, been here years longer than you. Peruvian Andes, eat it beeotch :) On the way to 18,600 summit
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GuapoVino
Trad climber
All Up In Here
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Dec 28, 2011 - 04:33pm PT
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According to his website his dad is a flight medic and his step-mom is a personal trainer.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Dec 28, 2011 - 04:34pm PT
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Pisco is a bigger slog than west buttress, just FYI. That slope you are on is as flat as a paper. Thats where LA peakbaggers go to impress their facebook friends these days. Wouldn't be surprised if you were guided.
If you are questioning and critiquing some random kid, don't be surprised to be questioned. Being a forum member for years, following on z tree, and hiking the dog route up Whitney in a day won't make you a climber ; )
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Dec 28, 2011 - 04:38pm PT
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I really want to climb North Face of Eiger and Emperor face on Robson. Do you guys think I want to do it for bragging rights and I am a POS because of it??
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 28, 2011 - 04:49pm PT
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Can we just flag VM as a plant of some kind? He's not posted anything he's ever done yet is calling out everyone else.
Pisco is not a hike up. Did it following a series of blizzards and had to make our own safe tracks. Or according to you 18,600 is nothing.
Thanks Coz, we're on the same page about this. Who is this VM apologist anyway?
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Dec 28, 2011 - 05:06pm PT
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Pisco IS a slog (PD). Wowzers you guys had to make a shelter, that's impressive. I guess no other expeditions are able to do that these days. And if you care about that 18K, than heights must impress you, not routes I guess. Kid should be your hero, he has been to what over 29K? Beat you by 11K ahahhaha Climbers go to Cordillera Blanca for D-TDs not PD routes.
I do not care to share much about self because I do not care to compare balls or trash talk about some random kid who had his dreams come true.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 28, 2011 - 05:14pm PT
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OK, it's official. VM is a loser who is here to do nothing but promote his client's 7 summit "achievement."
Vitaly, post some pics of you doing the things you are accusing us of being lame on. I've posted my proof. Show me YOURS! Can't wait and don't bother showing some stock photos.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Dec 28, 2011 - 05:21pm PT
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I really want to climb North Face of Eiger
No wife, check
No kids, check
No life, check
Nieve, check
you're a perfect candidate...do it before you wise up because once you are older you won't want to climb that thing...just looking up at it gave me nightmares...
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