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couchmaster
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pdx
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:22pm PT
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I see you've gone back, edited, and made your posts less offensive "Chongo". Frankly, you now sound more like "poor little innocent me, I'm only concerned about Plaidman's health and welfare". I'm fine with the edits, although it just emphasizes how dishonest you are. People reading this should know that you were significantly more offensive in your original posts, and that's why so many stepped up to call bullshit on you.
your a f*#king ass hole,,, IM NOT TRYING TO BE MEAN TO YOUR BUDDY PLAID,,, get over it you f*#king baby
Yes you were trying to be mean, f*head, and learn to spell. Before you changed your posts, you were trying to put the man down so that you could appear superior to him. As if you were a 3rd grader boasting on the schoolyard, but as the anonomys prick online version. You must be too much of a chickenshit to tell us who you are "Chongo", who you climb with, what you've climbed ? Plaidman has the balls to step up and be honest, warts and all. Who he is, what he's climbed, and how slowly or poorly he's done it:-) Full meal deal. Much more honest and obviously a better climber than you have or apparently will be. For sure it's clear to all of us that he's a better person than you are or will ever be.
Big shot. Coward.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:25pm PT
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OH MY GOD,,,, when will you get the f*#king point,,, i love this chongo guy,,, i love his psych, his enthusiasm and all that,, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM,,, my problem is i hate the fact he said he would never post on this site again and then posted 5 times in the next 10 minutes.
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:30pm PT
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but just like i said if i was on yosar and had to rescue these guys(anyone.. plaidman, hawk, Bill Coe, you, me) because they got benighted on a route they didnt have a skill for
HEY! YOU IGNORANT SLUT! YOU NEED TO BE BITCHSLAPPED!
one can argue that every rescue involves people over their heads. who was the dude that got plucked off nanga parbat recently? a pussy in chongo's eye's? or one of the baddest climbers of the day who happened to get in over their heads?
chongo you are an ignorant moron. i am just sorry that we have provided you any sick entertainment for the nite.
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Pass the Chongo, Chongo
Social climber
camped on P3 of WOS
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2011 - 11:30pm PT
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hey couchf*#ker,,, i got spell check bro,,, im trying to give the guy advice you guys are all too f*#king pussy to give him. i think hes a great dude, with tons of psych whos majorly enthusiastic about climbing, there is nothing wrong with that. i hope he keeps it up,,, hes got some fun reading on his blog or whatever u wanna call it,,,, i just hope he avoids climbs that are over his head so he does not have to be calling yosar to let them know he is okay
I HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO PROBLEM WITH YOU PLAIDMAN!!! please dont make these guys think that im trying to be a dick to you,,, I'm not, I wish you the best in your climbing and hope you succeed on all of your future goals!!! if Royal Robbins posted the same things you did I'd rip into him just as hard. if i did what you did i'd hope id get a little sh#t for it too!
same sh#t differnt day... http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1250621&tn=0&mr=0
you guys are the f*#king haters times really have changed
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:31pm PT
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i think climbing snake dike when you have to aid the first pitch is dumb obviously you dont belong there,,,
You're right. It was only my first 10 years or so that were made up of places I didn't belong.
After that I got my sh*t together, sort of....
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:42pm PT
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getting in over your head is how you learn.....getting out on your own, like plaidman did, is commendable. so his crime is posting it on his blog.....BFD
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Pass the Chongo, Chongo
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2011 - 11:46pm PT
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hawk,,, do you just not get it??? plaid committed no crimes,,, i just feel like he got in a little over his head and should maybe rethink some things before he heads back up on a mission like that... but also i just noticed that is was from 2 years ago,,, so hes prolly learned tons of sh#t since then, im the one who commited the crime for pointing out that calling yosar was kinda lame, and if you rope up on the approach to snake dike your probably over you head. i wish someone had been there to tell me when i almost killed my self getting in over my head BITD but i guess no one did since they didnt want to be considered jerk-as#@&%e-chongopussys
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:48pm PT
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yeah,
you are a real quality individual arent you? you have performed your community service. now delete this whore of a thread....
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Pass the Chongo, Chongo
Social climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2011 - 11:50pm PT
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lol i love how much im getting to ya hawk ;)
i love your 2000 posts of contributing to all the non climbing crap on this website,,, at least i talk about climbing ;)
hahah holy sh#t and couchf*#ker too,,, 3500 non climbing posts
do you guys have f*#king lives? so i spend one night flipping you guys sh#t on here, while you guys deal with it day after day,,,, hmmmm
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:52pm PT
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hey,
i shared my weakness....i reflect back on aholes and bullies. i do not pick on psyched newbs by rubbing their face in it.
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i enjoyed reading plaidmans blog. the enthusiasm was contagious.
so chongopussy, is there anytime to call yosar that meant you were not in over your head? you moron.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:56pm PT
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All I can say is WOW!!! I nuked the other post I made as per a friends request. I didn't even read the responses, and this one popped up and my thread was resurrected from the dead.
I love climbing and everything about it. Thanks to my friends for posting.
All the best. May we all obtain our dreams. St. Peter's Dome was one of mine.
Here is a summit video:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2285424850055¬if_t=video_tag
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:58pm PT
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I love climbing and everything about it.
god on ya buddy! i will follow your blog as i sometimes visit portland and some of those obscure crags up the columbia are interesting. dont let a single ahole turn ya off.
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Pass the Chongo, Chongo
Social climber
camped on P3 of WOS
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2011 - 11:59pm PT
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"We felt like we were on the dark side of the Moon. Out came the cell phone. I called several climbers to ask if they had their guide book to Yosemite Valley handy. Bill Coe told me to call Ben because Bill was driving. Finally I got a hold of Ben and he asked why we needed his guide book. I told him we were lost in the dark on Snake Dike and after he had finished laughing to my chagrin, he walked us through the last pitches of the climb. I also had my wife call YOSAR to tell them that we were fine, just in case someone had told them we were up there. I didn’t want someone wasting any effort checking on us."
Okay so if i hear you correctly that its cool that every evening in yosemite, yosars emergency lines will be tied up with all the benighted climbers calling to let them know they where okay in case they where worried?
shit theres a light on zodiac,,, better call yosar!!!! ive been benighted countless of times in the ditch,,, never really thought werner cared unless it was a real emergency
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:04am PT
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this thread is weird. For the record I would totally hang out with those guys. They seem like my people.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:04am PT
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chongo,
that sounds much cooler than having yosar show up in the middle of the nite to rescue.
in the early days in zions i was climbing something and the rangers showed up at nite with a searchlite cuz i was reported to be in trouble.
some mite conclude that calling the rescuers was thoughtful. but then again the only rescue i have been involved with was of a neighboring party.
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Pass the Chongo, Chongo
Social climber
camped on P3 of WOS
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2011 - 12:06am PT
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hawk,,, are you under the impression that YOSAR automatically goes into rescue mode when they see a light on a climb?
yes tourists are dumb and will clog emergency phone lines with ease, but as climbers we should leave them open for when absolutely necessary,,, i mean this is like going back to the whole spot thing,,, and pushing the help button when not needed,,,
edit: mite bro? really come on and i'm an idiot?
edit again: hawk you dont even f*#king climb youve got 150 pictures posted on this site NOT ONE CLIMBING REALTED!!!! your not even really adding anything to this battle other than the fact you think im dumb because of our differing opinions, and that its cool to call yosar when ever
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WBraun
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:12am PT
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Yosar doesn't have any emergency lines.
All emergency lines go to dispatch and then routed thru appropriate channels.
Besides if the guy calls to say he's OK so what.
It's way better than a call for distress any day .....
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Pass the Chongo, Chongo
Social climber
camped on P3 of WOS
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2011 - 12:17am PT
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Werner, but if every benighted/late climber called to let you know they where okay, would you guys not get a little pissed off?
My point is that this is not the norm,,,, and prolly not the ideal attitude to carry into the hills,,, but now that its cool to get on routes totally over your head and epic into the dark, guess this will now become the norm, as its obvious climbing has changed from what i remember. as it doesnt matter what the f*#k you do or how much danger you put yourself or those around you in, as long as your psyched and having fun,,, ITS ALL GOOD!!!!
Carry on ya'll
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:24am PT
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edit again: hawk you dont even f*#king climb youve got 150 pictures posted on this site NOT ONE CLIMBING REALTED!!!! your not even really adding anything to this battle other than the fact you think im dumb because of our differing opinions, and that its cool to call yosar when ever
i dont need your approval or anyone elses on this site of me as a climber. i dont give a sh#t who you are. if you bothered to comprehend at all what i and others have stated on this thread then maybe you would begin to get the message.
as to calling yosar, only plaidman can answer that. but the only motivation that one can have for that is to inform YOSAR that they do not need to effect a rescue. is that potentially a noob call? maybe. is it based upon consideration for YOSAR? yes. how many others have done that? if i recall there have been some very experienced climbers who have done that on elcap as well as some very experenced climbers who have taken the rescue.
i doubt very much that their phone lines are clogged all hours of the day. if they are then there is a far greater problem at hand than one call. again you show yourself to be a moron.
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Pass the Chongo, Chongo
Social climber
camped on P3 of WOS
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2011 - 12:27am PT
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hawk go engage your self in the occupy wall st thread,,, obviously you cant handle me you f*#kin conservative sh#t head
ya all those experienced climbers got sh#t for it too you dumb ass
edit: dude your a f*#king moron and can not read what i wrote "every evening in yosemite, yosars emergency lines will be tied up...."
edit again: cuz hawk is the far opposite of a hippie,,, well heres to you bud!
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