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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 21, 2011 - 01:41pm PT
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I agree (I like the support), but you're still being cagey.
Personally, I might of had a little oopsie if I had to face down a bear with nothing but a little forty cal.
(lol, OK here we go,..)
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Aug 21, 2011 - 01:50pm PT
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Regardless if the bear was inside or not it charged and who wouldn't shoot it besides Brandon. June has a big problem with bears and people and it's common for this kind of encounter. Much like the valley bears they are used to humans. I remember eating @ the silver lake resort and watching a bear just laying outside the window as tourons got close and photographed it. The bear didn't even flinch.
I agree good shooting Tex. Still plenty of bears out there, and I know never charge at cragman cause he'll shoot my ass.
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Gilwad
climber
Frozen In Somewhere
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Aug 21, 2011 - 01:51pm PT
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Cragman, thanks for the answers, cool to figure out what happened, makes sense now.
The autopsy on the bear makes sense, stomach is full probably of burgers and take-out from garbage cans and other human stuff he could scrounge, sad.
One thing that interests me of late is how having a gun in hand effects decision making. Would you have gone outside so quickly without a gun in hand? I hunt and know the difference a rifle in hand can make in my mindset when out in the wood. I had to spend two days out alone in really thick bush recently, I do wish I'd had my rifle but didn't. All the time in the woods by myself with a rifle had changed my thinking, I never would have cared much before in the previous 30 years of bush travel, often solo.
So in this situation would your reaction have been different had you not had a gun in your hand? Did you end up in a much riskier situation because you were armed? I never used to understand why so many hunters ended up getting attacked by grizzly bears (beyond the obvious dead animal problem), I'm starting to think it has more to with people getting bolder and making less careful decisions when armed (using myself as a reference, what I've done).
Anyhow, thanks for the answers, and lots of respect for the good shooting under stress--hard to do that, you must put some solid training into your shooting. Off to the range now to do mine.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 21, 2011 - 01:52pm PT
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You think the bear did damage to your home?
Wait till you see it after BearFest!
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Gilwad
climber
Frozen In Somewhere
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Aug 21, 2011 - 01:54pm PT
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This Just In, Cragman didn't shoot at the first opportunity he had (not safe to do so etc). He didn't shoot until he was directly threatened. I expect most people would do the same--only shoot when they had to vs. a bear being a pain in the ass.
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this just in
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north fork
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Aug 21, 2011 - 01:56pm PT
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Gilwad, he shot when it charged him I didn't need clarification cause that's what I would of done too.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 21, 2011 - 01:58pm PT
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Confronting a wild animal that has no sense of fear of man, and directly breaks into homes repeatedly, without a weapon..........not a good idea.
Unless you have the ability to reason with it like Brandon.
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apogee
climber
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:00pm PT
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"Go climbing."
Nah, gotta do a little work today. Besides, this attention-seeking thread is sure to be more entertaining. That's the goal, right?
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:01pm PT
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SAD
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:04pm PT
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I think Cragman has done something here that you are likely to see happening more and more as the years progress.
Writing a TR without even leaving home!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:04pm PT
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Ha , Ho...I'm going to get my bear suit out of the dry cleaners...RJ
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:05pm PT
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so what happens after the adrenaline subsides and your gun cools off -- reload?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:06pm PT
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No Dean...It's not because you are Christian...It's the Plaid dude...!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:12pm PT
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Cragman...Any pics of you in that leather Kilt..?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:14pm PT
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Cosmic..Last time i tried to peek thru your windows..I couldn't see sh#t...! You know any good window washers..? RJ
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apogee
climber
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:19pm PT
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Truth^^^^
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:22pm PT
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He didn't hunt the bear, he reacted and was proud of his reaction. Doesn't mean he didn't feel bad shooting it.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:23pm PT
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"Those who resent me do so because I am a Christian"
A bear is dead and now its about religion?
Dean, it is obvious that you did what you had to do.
Posting pictures of you posing over the little bear with your big gun is just disgusting.(hey kids -take my picture)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:24pm PT
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Bunch of hand wringing monday morning quarterbacks.
When your local rag does a story clip it and send it to American Rifleman for their Armed Citizens column. Make sure it mentions the kids.
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Brian
climber
California
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Aug 21, 2011 - 02:25pm PT
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Yikes! Glad you and the family are alright. You've really had bear trouble this season in between job sites, the marina, and now your home. Glad you were prepared and are such a good shot. I agree that it's sad to have to put the bear down, but you did what you had to do in the situation. Did you ever figure out why Cush wasn't barking?
Brian
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