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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland
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Sep 21, 2010 - 04:41pm PT
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bergbryce - and after the 'smash' is your mob going to burn the NPR
transmitters and studios to save the public from the Left Wing propaganda?
no, we'll sweep up the mess and probably go for a bike ride
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 21, 2010 - 04:44pm PT
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Yes, Carl Castle, the master propagandist.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Swimming in LEB tears.
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Sep 21, 2010 - 04:54pm PT
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Douglas said ....... if they serve in the US military.
It's STILL amnesty and is thus unacceptable. Those "soldiers" snuck into this country and joined the military simply so they could take advantage of the free health care, free benefits and wonderful discounts that our brave military enjoys. Disgusting freeloaders the lot of them.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 21, 2010 - 05:06pm PT
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Jeff, your simplicity is astonishing, but predictable.
From what you said, anyone who gets into this country illegally has to "go back"
to where they came from.
Nice "conservative" sound bite. Designed to appeal to fellow simple minds.
You NEVER deal with the important "facts" behind your beliefs.
Because you have not thought them out yourself.
You cannot "round up" 15 million "illegals" and "send them back to where they came from"
BUY WHY NOT?
BECAUSE, they have children who were born here and are US citizens.
BECAUSE many DO pay income taxes and DO contribute to this society.
BECAUSE you CANNOT put their US children in state "foster homes" while you
"round up" their parents and "send them back".
WHY is your mind so hopelessly simplistic? WHY can't you think anything through?
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BrianH
Trad climber
santa fe
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Sep 21, 2010 - 05:11pm PT
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Plus how many porta-potties will you need to prevent outbreaks of dysentery while those 15 million are detained for processing? It's a pretty big logistical challenge, I'll tell you what!!!
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Tahoe City/Talmont , CA
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Sep 21, 2010 - 05:13pm PT
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HDDJ,
Yes, "they" probably joined the military for the reasons stated - in addition to becoming citizens.
But if you apply your same logic, "we" should not be offering our troops any form of GI bill or "extra" compensation for serving. Or one could say that all those who are or have served are free-loaders as well.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Sep 21, 2010 - 05:13pm PT
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C'mon people, let's get back to what major assh*les are on FOX, mmkay?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Sep 21, 2010 - 05:32pm PT
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Jeff, there is NO such thing as Mexican "anchor babies".
What Fatty is saying is that we all have to be VERY AFRAID that a Mexican
woman has a PLAN to come across the border and give birth.
This way, the baby will be a US citizen, and will already be in the USA,
so when she grows up she can commit acts of TERRORISM.
So, once again the "conservative" mind shows itself: FEARFUL of Mexicans.
Never mind that there has NOT been ANY acts of terror committed by a Mexican
baby who's mother came across the border with this intent.
Anchor babies, my ass.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Sep 21, 2010 - 05:41pm PT
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Don't forget about the 'anchor embryos'! They are coming to get us!
If I knew how to make an eyeball roll emoticon, I would insert it here.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Sep 21, 2010 - 05:43pm PT
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The OP said:
I don't know what anybody can do other than boycott.
Then I said:
One thing I've learned on the taco is that self deluded people will ignore all reasonable evidence they are wrong. Then they will latch onto the most crazy far left/right statements coming from the other side and use that to ignore reality and feel comfortable in their own misconceptions.
Then JEleazarian who is probably the most reasonable conservative here said:
A left-wing friend of mine posted a link on her Facebook page a couple of days ago, essentially calling for an end to Fox News. Predictably, a similar thread shows up here. So much for independent thinking.
So John who is a reasonable conservative falls right into this mental trap. The OP said a boycott of FOX news. Something as freedom loving capitalists should be our right to do. But John spun it in his mind as "an end" to fox news. Noboby here is talking about taking away Fox's freedom of speech. They are just poiting out how it is full of lies and misconceptions and this is doing harm to this country. But when they can't accept that truth they spin it as "FAR Left Liberals want to silence dissent". LOL. Imagine what happens in the heads of the less reasonable conservatives and you can easily see why they think Obama is Hitler.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Swimming in LEB tears.
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Sep 21, 2010 - 05:58pm PT
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LEB says You all do that here. Most of this forum is "left" and you do all reinforce one another in your collective ideology.
There is no "collective ideology" on the left. What defines the left is how disparate and diverse the ideologies are.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Sep 21, 2010 - 06:00pm PT
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wow fatty.
disinformation - check.
mexican fear - check.
unable to think oneself outside of a box - check.
unfortunatley, i always got a kick out of some of your posts but today, you are showing your true (idiotic) lieing colors and i have lost whatever respect i may have had of you personally.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 21, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
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Nice "conservative" sound bite. Designed to appeal to fellow simple minds.
You NEVER deal with the important "facts" behind your beliefs.
Because you have not thought them out yourself.
You cannot "round up" 15 million "illegals" and "send them back to where they came from"
BUY WHY NOT?
BECAUSE, they have children who were born here and are US citizens.
BECAUSE many DO pay income taxes and DO contribute to this society.
BECAUSE you CANNOT put their US children in state "foster homes" while you
"round up" their parents and "send them back".
WHY is your mind so hopelessly simplistic? WHY can't you think anything through?
And lastly, fattrad, you fail to mention that Wall Street will never allow this. How can they crush the living standard of Americans if they ship all the illegals home? Nope, ain't gonna happen. The illegals provide Republicans with a boogieman to scare the dumbasses and they provide Wall Street a way to bust the wages of the same dumbasses. It's a win-win!
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Sep 21, 2010 - 06:08pm PT
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LEB, "The people are draw there due to common ideology and they come away with reinforcement for their belief system."
here is the visual for republicans drawn to FOX news....
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Sep 21, 2010 - 06:34pm PT
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radical,
you forgot fox news!
and i hate to say it, but i think LEB got you to respond to her....just sayin... :)
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Sep 21, 2010 - 06:38pm PT
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stupid is the new average.
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Jeremy Handren
climber
NV
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Sep 21, 2010 - 06:42pm PT
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Bertrand said
"What a creepy, Orwellian topic this is.
Many could say Fox's news bias is no further right then MSNBC is left. It just depends on which "center" you're measuring from. If you think Fox has a monopoly on hyperpartisan crap journalism, let us remind you of Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman. Hannity is tiresomely predictable, but O'Reilly actually praises the president quite often...he's just not slobbering all over him the way the other networks do, and maybe that puts him to the right of Wolf Blitzer and Gwen Ifill.
If you're trying to suppress news sources you don't like, then you are part of a MUCH bigger problem'
Bullshit Bertrand, this is an organization that was the outlet for a systematic propaganda campaign to lead the united states into a war with iraq after 9/11. There is no need to repeat the avalanche of lies here, but this was not an isolated occurence. The climate change debate has followed a similar tack, as did the health care debate. its not a news organization.
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pc
climber
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Sep 21, 2010 - 06:59pm PT
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Crimpie, Exactly! Fer crissakes! No more pregant women visitors, tourists, students, etc. Check'em at the borders! And while we're at it...Have "those" dudes check their sperm at the border too. No illegal "swimmers" allowed!
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Sep 21, 2010 - 06:59pm PT
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"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward."
FDR
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