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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Jan 31, 2010 - 09:59pm PT
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Best Wishes to the Redpoint guys...really sorry to hear about this. Haven't seen any brand new gear show up for sale in our area, but we will keep a lookout.
It was probably some meth-heads..
Matt Lambert
Rogue Rock Gym - Owner
Medford, Oregon
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Binks
Social climber
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Jan 31, 2010 - 10:07pm PT
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I need some new offset aliens for my planned return to the Captain this year. If you got 'em I'll order from you. I hope you guys are gonna recover. If you're open I'll stop by sometime Feb13-20 when I'm in Bend. I'll be in Bend for a week hoping for some good snow up at Bachelor.
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Casey Chambers
climber
San Diego, CA
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Jan 31, 2010 - 11:50pm PT
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So is it just me or does it seem a bit odd that the alarm, which I'm guessing was a silent alarm, did function and go off, yet the burglar(s) decided to hang out and clear out the showcases, clothing racks, ropes off of the wall, dvds, frisbees, cliff bars... wtf clif bars??, 36 pairs of cheap ass sunglasses?, in total about 854 items (yes I counted) that would most likely fill a ford cargo van IF it was all well organized. I know because I can hardly fit all my crap in my subaru when I live at Smith out in the grasslands for 2 weeks every summer.
Anyway, my point is, based on the facts of the job, it must have taken at least 15 - 25 minutes (with 2 people, maybe 3 -- 2 grabbers 1 lookout/loader), and these guys must have known the following;
1. Terrebonne is not the most crackin place after midnight in the winter, even on the only main road that goes through the town
2. If/when the alarm went off, the signal would not reach the police
3. Been somewhat familiar with the store layout (if time minimization was important to them)
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Like it matters at all, here are my thoughts:
If they did not know there was an alarm, they would probably have limited their time to 5 - 10 minutes maximum. Considering that the county sheriff's office is 361 ft from Redpoint (I don't know if an officer is stationed there for night shift though). That would have taken at least 4 people and multiple vehicles to accomplish this. Considering that the county sheriff's office is 361 ft from Redpoint.
They were not that good considering they parked in front of a 24 hr video camera.
They stole things that have next to zero resale value, i.e. chalk, tape, copper heads, clif bars etc... To me that means they were stupid or angry, and not concerned with how long this job took (meaning they knew the alarm was not going to matter somehow).
With all this stuff they have 3 choices:
Keep it forever, Give it away, Use it, Sell it
The first two aren't likely, and No climber who resorts to stealing things would use all of this stuff and never sell anything. Basically, they will be selling this stuff eventually.
They didn't seem to know what is worth what, and they took A LOT. Therefore maybe they were paid by someone that does know what this stuff is worth. That means that the people selling this stuff are probably familiar with climbing, and are not local to central oregon, or probably the rest of the state. And they have probably read through all of these posts too.
Fortunately, most of the money making stuff that was stolen was hardware, tents, or other expensive and well made gear that all individually bear batch numbers. As an engineer, I know how important it is for companies like BD, Metolius, and Petzel to mark each piece of gear with a unique number that tells of what material batch is was made from in the event of a recall due to material defects. That means that if gear is purchased from one of these fools, they're screwed because it can all be traced right back though redpoint as the original purchaser. Considering there were 854 items taken, and about 60% of them are probably numbered, there are over 500 very good chances to catch them.
That said, if you purchase some gear that came from a private party and is on that list in America over the next year, look into where it came from. It should be fairly easy to do, and is worth a lot to Redpoint.
Erik,
Dude, how did they get in? was the place trashed at all?
I am so very sorry to hear about this. If I wasn't in school right now, I'd come up and help you out with whatever I could.
You should set up a donation link on your site through paypal. You can do it through your web hoster usually.
Anyway, keep your spirits up, may God bless your efforts and i will see you this summer!
--Casey
P.S. I will send this out to all of the climbing guides that I work with, and the gyms down here in central California. We're on the hunt.
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thisisntmii
Boulder climber
Pasadena, CA
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This is ABSOLUTELY insane! I used to manage the shop back in the day and I love it there! Smith Rock is where I basically began climbing. I'm sad to see this happened to such a great establishment... if there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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hey I saw , last week on craig's list in the san francisco bay area , many posts for new climbing gear for sale.. cams with tags on them, passive pro still in the package.. some gear posted as very slightly used no scratches.. (not possible)..slings new. belay devices.. about 10 -12 items on each post, did not see ropes or clothing
If I can find the link still active i will post it up
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Khoi
climber
Vancouver, BC
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Any updates one why the sheriff's station never got notified? Do we know whether it's the fault of the phone company or the alarm company yet?
How about the footage from the restaurant across the street? Has that been able to be of any help yet?
Smith Rock is currently my favourite outdoor climbing destination. I've been pouring through Alan Watts' newest guidebook. I'd hate to lose Redpoint Climbers Supply!
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juiceman
Trad climber
Bay Area, CA
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I posted an alert on Craigslist in the S.F. Bay Area.
I'm thinking that based on the the large size of the climbing community here, as well as the heavy utilization of Craigslist (it did start here after all) PLUS the the fact the selling the stuff locally in the Smith Rock area would all but impossible, it's as likely to end up here as anywhere.
For those live in areas where you have a good size CL, post something similar in your local area.
Let's not give these scum anywhere to hide or profit out of this.
We the climbing community are in the best position to help here.
https://post.craigslist.org/manage/1592110848/rkbw2
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Ezra
Social climber
WA, NC, Idaho Falls
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Obviously keep an eye on Seattle, portland and Salt Lake city, boise, Craigs lists!
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jfailing
Trad climber
A trailer park in the Sierras
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Bump. Did the suckaz get caught yet?
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Casey, do you have an alibi?
You know an awful lot.
Just kidding....I think?
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
CA
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A weary welcome to the club.
Sorry to hear your news, my shop was burglarized three times.
Don't just look for climbers in the Valley to turn up with the stuff, my gear ended up assisting taggers to access freeway overpasses in LA.
Check with your local Sherriff gang unit, and let them know what the stuff looks like.
Meanwhile, hire an attorney that specializes in collecting from insurance companies to deal with your claim, or you will never get the money to get the gear to stay in business, then you will have lost the gear, your shop, and your job.
hope you fare better than i did,
Ed
edit, ps build a fort!
sink pipes in front and fill em with cement. then they can't drive a stolen car into it.
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 29, 2010 - 03:05pm PT
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Non-zero chance, but seems unlikely. Pretty different MO.
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Mark Rodell
Trad climber
Bangkok
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Dec 29, 2010 - 07:22pm PT
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bump
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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^^^^^
+1, yeah I am curious as well if the thieves were nabbed. And also, Eric, have you been able to bounce back from the theft?
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