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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Well Mighty it depends on which audience he's giving lectures to.
Deciding on which to be; socialist or fascist. The man's good.
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dogtown
Gym climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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Precisely. The Germans know this about government, when one party runs it all… Bad things happen.
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dogtown
Gym climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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The Republican Party really is hoping that the United States fails.
Your an Idiot.
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dogtown
Gym climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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More, please I love this read.
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jstan
climber
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"Precisely. The Germans know this about government, when one party runs it all… Bad things happen. "
Now if Dogtown were rational he would have continued to say in 2006 he voted
Democratic for precisely that reason.
If he is irrational he will not mention what he did as that is irrelevant to what he
fears. There is a gap.
Reality has been partitioned off into two parts that have no relationship.
Now I am going to try and head off a challenge. We need not to start talking
about
abnormal psychology
First of all I have heard evolutionary psychologists say point blank that present
day science is not even able to define what is normal or why one behavior is
normal and another is not. We can tell when one is destructive but the range of
human behavior is so vast and the data so minimal we can't say more.
Now if what I have said has any merit, and that is an if, we need to avoid the
pejorative "normal". We can talk about what is destructive and what is
constructive but that is about it. We will be able to do more in another hundred
years
provided we can now become more constructive.
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dogtown
Gym climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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Now, if Dogtown were rational in 2006 he would have took his Mother back to Germany with his family and stayed. But No! I like it here, In no mans land Wyoming.
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jstan
climber
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Presuming you were not eligible to vote, let me ask. Had you been eligible, how would you have voted and why?
Your liking it here is your business and your choice.
Some long time ago I suggested we needed to offset our election of the president so that it comes a month after elections for Congress.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Corniss' obsession with taking other people's inventory (and fiding it lacking) would fall under what I called "pathological scapegoating," and the fuel behind it has nothing whatsoever to do with anything political. He's got the rigid "other" fixation of a Bill Reilley, a little less hostility, but more fear.
It's the damnest thing to see and understand, but it's in full swing with him and others here - of that we may be sure.
JL
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jstan
climber
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I will say I found getting a little older was an eye opening experience.
When you are worried primarily about breaking a leg, 18 is a great age.
For everything else - it sucks.
Pardon my French but that word was the only one that fits.
I think this is one of the reasons I think spending 12 years to learn what little is taught in public schools is a travesty. By 18 you should have finished college, be ready to enter graduate school and have chosen your life's path. You should already have put a lot of ground behind you.
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dogtown
Gym climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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we can now become more constructive.
I pray for it. In addition, I say that because if theirs not a God running this we are in a mess. On the other hand, if there is why did he let it go bad for so long? These are the only questions, the rest mean nothing .Alternatively, any statement. Less one is trying to prove something too others. You must ask yourself this. No? I have no faith in people that think like me or un-like me. Look around do you? We have f*#ked the whole thing up. Look at this forum and this thread. None of us, and I mean none us miss a beat too stick it up someone’s ass or to show how well written and smart we are. Do we? This thread will go for hundred thousand posts and it will never answer; (Why are those Republicans wrong on everything) It is like say the Democrats are right on everything. In the end the best we can do is tell each other too F*#k off. More than that is just to boast about nothing. That is why we are in this sh#t pile. I am not either,Dem.or Rep. but I ’am discussed with the whole mess.
This thread is not productive to the Brotherhood of climbing.
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jstan
climber
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I have to admit to something. I took two or three semesters of German but never learned to speak it. Pretty sad huh? No. Pathetic. A perfectly orderly language like that can be learned by even myself. I must admit though I absolutely hated waiting till the end of the sentence to hear what was happening.
I think I hear some of what you are saying. I agree things are a mess. But what is the worst part? There is not a single good reason why everything should be in a mess. It is almost like that is the way we prefer it. Weird.
That is what is the most discouraging.
But it is every person's responsibility to deal with their discouragement.
Even if I were to emigrate to the far Northwest Territories I would still have to come to an agreement with the Inuit. Were I not to do this, I would be carrying the "mess" with me.
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dogtown
Gym climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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But it is every person's responsibility to deal with their discouragement.
I am working on that. However, I do find it troublesome.
Peace, it was fun.
Dogtown.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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This thread is not the bane of the CLIMBER'S forum that at first glance it may appear to be. It has at least kept the bulk of the political frothing contained to a single cyber rubber room. It has also quite clearly demonstrated that many climbers actually like discussing topics other than climbing even on a "climber's" forum. It has also been a hoot. I hope that after it hits 10,000 it is archived and put in a time capsule as a prime example of social intercourse in the 21st century.
Q...Why do they call it Golf?
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Jeremy Handren
climber
NV
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The Nazi's, despite having the words "socialist and worker" in their title were not a socialist movement.
The workers bit particularly, was a bit of a sad joke since they had very little support among the german working classes before 1933, except in some rural regions. The vast majority of German workers were divied up by the Communist and Social Democrat parties.
Political parties in Weimar germany (and there many) often had the word "social" ( as in pertaining to society) in their name without that having anything to do with the underlying politics.
The underlying politics of the Nazi party were based on extreme nationalism and Racism...the completre polar opposite of the socialist parties in germany who had a strong internationalist bent.
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Bamm_Bamm
Social climber
Out in the Wilderness looking for Dr. F
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Socialism is an economic term as applied to a political desire and means to implement it.
The NAZI party under Hitler meets this definition to a tee.
Hitler was a socialist, he called himself a socialist. Why you would want to deny that I don't know.
Hitler understood completely that he needed the control over his government and the German people that socialism gave him.
He then went on to do what all socialists do.
He took over complete control and used it to his, not the German peoples, advantage.
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Bamm_Bamm
Social climber
Out in the Wilderness looking for Dr. F
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"I am obliged to confess I should sooner live in a society governed by the first two thousand names in the Boston telephone directory than in a society governed by the two thousand faculty members of Harvard University."
--William F. Buckley
Even Bill Buckley understood that most people just want to be left alone to pursue their OWN happiness.
Harvard intellecutals (and many here on SuperTopo) want to run your life for you whether you agree with them or not.
One hopes that climbers above all others would understand the concept of "Freedom."
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apogee
climber
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Regarding the recent posts trying to delve into the psyche and better understand the mind of the Repug...
Honestly, I don't see the relevance of understanding the workings of their minds- the fact is that psyche dysfunction is present in virtually every mind, on both sides of the political fence, in every person here in ST, including the one that is controlling the hands that are typing this.
Attributing various actions to the make-up of one's mind is a cop-out and places choice and personal control below biology. Each person who posts here has enough properly functioning biologic material between their ears to be able to make better choices about what they say, and how they say it. The tendency for 'coarse rhetoric' is regularly, commonly displayed by people like cchopper, but it is just as common on the other side of the fence (myself included).
I don't really give a f*ck what side of the fence you are on- express your view in a cogent, meaningful, respectful, well-thought out manner, and I'll do my very best to listen to you. If you can't do that, you can expect me to either respond (at least) as dysfunctionally as you, or better yet, ignore you completely.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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