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WandaFuca
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A survey where 68% preferred this Fuca over others
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Re: Why are those Republicans so wrong on everything Sep 6,
2009, 09:43pm PT
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shut up and pull
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From:
"To kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and
military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do
it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to
liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque [Jerusalem] and the holy mosque
[Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move
out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten
any Muslim." Osama bin Laden In fatwa entitled Jihad Against
Jews and Crusaders World Islamic Front Statement, February 28,
1998.
Folks -- long before we invaded Iraq, and long before Bush was
in power, bin Laden wanted to kill us. Yet to liberals, they
make it out as if it is only since 2001 that we have been under
threat by bin Laden. Wake up.
I think it's extremely ironic that SUAP hasn't "woke up" to how
much his Manichean way of looking at the world is similar to
Osama bin Laden's.
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jstan
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Cornice Chopper's link has thrown all of our posts into text Hell.
We all need to go back and edit them by adding a carriage return at the end of
each long line. Simple, takes at most a minute.
Have already done mine.
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Ghost
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A long way from where I started
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We've been lucky in the US that people took action to stop socialism from getting the upper hand.
Damn right! If it wasn't for martyrs like Joe McCarthy your country would surely have fallen into a socialist nightmare.
Edit: I know I swore I wouldn't post again until around 10,000, but that line about the brave folks taking action to prevent a socialist takeover was too weird to leave alone.
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Jeremy Handren
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NV
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"Fascists co-opted the socialist movement for their own ends"
Thats just not true Rox,
the Social Democrats and the Nazis were two very distinct political movements. In fact, they were mortal enemies during the final years of the Weimar Republic.
The Nazis did strike a populist tone from time to time but you shouldn't confuse that with the fact that they were a fascist organization.
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dogtown
Gym climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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the equivalent of our liberals today. What?
You must be joking. It's just as foolish for sure as them. And could be more dangerous. No?
Here’s one, American’s lets just destroy all our nuclear weapons right now. I’m all fore it. What do you say? Liberals are Dreamers and conservatives are Cowboy’s. Good thing God is looking after us all.
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jstan
climber
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What we have to grasp is the fact we are dealing with full on irrationality. Data,
history, prior experiences have no weight. We are dealing with people deep
into fight or flight. They don't know whether to flee or to pick up a weapon.
What we have been doing for 8800 posts does not help.
I don't know what does help, but we need to find out.
We also need to put carriage returns on each long line that autoreturns when
we are typing. Just go back and add them when you are done.
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Ghost - you may not have had access to media the rest of us did.
The Aug 2009 town hall meetings beat down the Government Healthcare program across the US.
Lots of people taking action to stop socialism. Not weird.
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apogee
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"Not precisely on topic, but to do with the roots of the political-military-industrial complex."
I dunno, MH- combine all of the capitalist interests of the military industrial complex with a Repug political process that feeds on blindered nationalism and motivating the masses through fear and irrationality, and I'd say that is right on topic.
Who are the real burgeoning nazis, hmmmm?
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Jeremy Handren
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NV
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Thats right Dogtown, the Social Democrats in early 1930's Germany were the rough equivalent of movements such as the british liberal party, and America's democrat party.
The coalition that brought Hitler to power, consisted of the Nazi's and the two religious/conservative Parties.
Sorry if that doesn't mesh with your beliefs, but thats the history.
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dogtown
Gym climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
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Oh, one more thing both of my parents lived in Nazi Germany. My father has pasted. But my Mother still lives she is 91. I still have family there. So?
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WBraun
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Why learn the history when it's not complete.
One must first learn the "complete" to understand history.
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Fascism -example: President Obama controlling General Motors.
CZAR YOU SERIOUS? - Obama's list of Czar's reads like a comedy routine.
Who needs to go next? Obama's 32 Czars are worried about their paychecks.
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jstan
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This is hardly a primary source but it does not take long to review it.
Irrationality
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrationality
Irrationality is cognition, thinking, talking or acting without inclusion of
rationality. The term is used, usually pejoratively, to describe thinking and
actions that are, or appear to be, less useful or illogical than other more
rational alternatives.
Irrational behaviors of individuals include taking offense or becoming angry
about a situation that has not yet occurred, expressing emotions exaggeratedly
(such as crying hysterically), maintaining unrealistic expectations, engaging in
irresponsible conduct such as problem intoxication, disorganization, or
extravagance, and falling victim to confidence tricks. People with a mental
illness like schizophrenia may exhibit irrational paranoia.
These more contemporary 'normative' conceptions of what constitutes a
manifestation of irrationality are difficult to demonstrate empirically because it
is not clear by whose standards we are to judge the behavior rational or
irrational.
Why does irrational behavior occur?
The study of irrational behavior is of interest in fields such as psychology,
cognitive science, economics, game theory, and evolutionary psychology, as
well as of practical interest to the practitioners of advertising and propaganda.
Theories of irrational behavior include:
1. people's actual interests differ from what they believe to be their interests.
2. mechanisms that have evolved to give optimal behavior in normal conditions
lead to irrational behavior in abnormal conditions.
3. In situations outside of one's ordinary circumstances, one may experience
intense levels of fear, or may regress to a Fight or flight mentality.
4. people fail to realize the irrationality of their actions and believe they are
acting perfectly rational, possibly due to flaws in their reasoning.
5. apparently irrational decisions are actually optimal, but made unconsciously
on the basis of "hidden" interests that are not known to the conscious mind
6. an inability to comprehend the social consequences of one's own actions,
possibly due in part to a lack of empathy.
7. Some people find themselves in this condition by living "double" lives. They
try to put on one "mask" for one group of people and another for a different
group of people. Many will become confused as to which they really are or
which they wish to become.
Factors which affect rational behavior include:
stress, which in turn may be emotional or physical
the introduction of a new or unique situation
intoxication
peers who convey irrational thoughts as necessary idiosyncrasy for social
acceptance
END EXCERPT
See the post above for an example of exaggerated claims or anger at things
that have not yet happened.
Looks almost textbook.
We need to put in the carriage returns people.
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Jeremy Handren
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NV
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No Werner,
In this case, a history that involved the gassing and incineration of millions of innocent civilians, is something we need to try and understand. No matter how incomplete we are.
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WBraun
climber
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I can tell you exactly why this happened but you'll never believe me.
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apogee
climber
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History repeats itself largely because Repugs keep inbreeding:
(Sorry to dredge up your family album, cchopper.)
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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First suap and his groupies rant at length about Obama being a socialist.
Now cc is telling us he's a fascist.
Well, which one is it?
All governments - that is to say ALL governments - are at their root authoritarian.
Democracy is the compromise solution to that problem.
That said, it is repugnant and ignorant to suggest that Obama is either a fascist or a socialist,
insofar as those terms have any real meaning, for political 'scientists' or others.
It is also highly offensive to the millions around the world who died as victims of communist/Leninist,
fascist, and other tyrannical regimes in the last century and more.
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apogee
climber
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Yes, cchopper, suap, and the rest of you fanatical brainless idjuts, which is it?
Do you even know the difference?
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jstan
climber
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It almost seems it is Apogee's picture that gives us this text problem.
Seems to be straightened out now. Cool.
When irrational, people may be both very frightened and unable to divine what
is in their best interest. In this case people may end up working very feverishly
to bring about the very thing they fear the most.
There are 300,000,000 of us and nearly five others for each one of us. We are
outnumbered five to one. This may be why nuclear weapons are seen almost
as a security blanket.
People think we will have to become reviled planetwide if they personally are to
get what they feel is their entitlement. That path has been accepted and nuclear
weapons will be what we will use to even the odds.
The truth is those weapons have been made largely irrelevant because of our
own lack of discipline. Other sovereign wealth funds now hold so much Federal
debt they can direct the future of our economy without even being obvious
about it. Have you noticed they are still buying it? They apparently feel a little
more will be useful and worth the potential loss.
Our entitlements will become history when being able to pay for food and to
pay all of our home equity loans is beyond our reach.
The farm is already gone folks.
I know the bomb has a very pleasing boom. Lots of drama. We like that. But this
other stuff is much harder to deal with. To deal with that you have to put your
SUV up on blocks and learn how to patch tears in your coveralls.
We could do all of that. If we had any steel in us.
Ah well. C'est le vie.
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