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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Dec 12, 2015 - 07:04pm PT
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Despite the Carolina potholes, nano diamonds, the char layer, sudden mega mammal extinction, and collapse of Clovis; the cause of that event is categorized as a sudden flux of melt water into the north atlantic via mega glacial lake dam failure by our esteemed climate scientists here. Anyway, you claimed extinction of life on earth as a result of the mushroom bloom. Sorry pardner, ain't going to happen as old Gaia has seen infinitely worse. Who knows? Might be a return to the stoneage and a minor evolutionary event though.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 12, 2015 - 07:32pm PT
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@ thebravecowboy. In Washington and Oregon it actually is legal. We both have death with dignity laws. Frankly, to persons like the Chief et al, this is some of the stuff liberals care about and repubs oppose.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Dec 12, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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The press doesn't give a damn about platforms and programs. All they are interested in is reporting poll results, no matter who made the poll.
They have stripped the newsrooms of reporters, all that's left is typists who do the easy stories. No in depth reporting of facts.
Hold the calls - we have a winner! The press not only doesn't care about platforms and programs, it no longer seems to employ many who even understand the issues involved. Press reporting on economic issues reminds me of the quality of reporting I used to read about climbing -- clueless.
Trying to obtain reliable news requires more effort than the American people are willing to undertake, so we end up with the media we deserve.
Ah, can someone please post when the American people had a Press that presented "reliable news"?
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 12, 2015 - 08:07pm PT
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Ahh, you must be referring to FOX news. Fair and balanced.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Dec 12, 2015 - 08:32pm PT
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Chief, the old Voice of America gave quite reliable broadcast news, and was available to anyone with a shortwave receiver. The Wall Street Journal still gives reliable news, as does the New York Times most of the time. I'm ignoring the editorial pages of either of those, of course. Otherwise, I need to dig. I still read portions of The Guardian daily to get a view from the left, and The Daily Signal to get a view from the right, but mostly I still need to do my own digging.
For example, the Bureau of Labor Statistics still reports objectively, and those results are available on the internet, as are substantial data compiled by the Census Bureau. I found I need to read any budget proposed, because the press will distort it. (e.g., when ABC reported that the military budget was increased 8% but domestic spending was cut 2%. Reading the budget disclosed that military spending was 8% higher than the previous year, and domestic spending was 6% higher than the previous year.) The Supreme Court posts all of its opinions online, etc.
As I said, it's a lot of work, but it can still be done by those who care.
John
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 12, 2015 - 09:45pm PT
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John, I always enjoyed reading The Economist.
Very detailed and dense reading, and being a weekly, I had trouble keeping up. But I thought they had perspectives that were different than what I saw in the US.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Dec 12, 2015 - 09:48pm PT
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Ken, I agree about The Economist. I tend to read it second-hand, although I subscribe when I can get a good deal. Its views tend to be more moderate compared with either The Guardian or The Daily Signal, but all tend to make me think of things I would not otherwise had considered, and all report on things no one else emphasizes.
John
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Dec 12, 2015 - 10:18pm PT
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Ok John E... The BBC as I remember as a Kid, both here in CONUS and when I lived in FF, Germany, back in the early to mid 60's, was "informative" and to the factual point.
Hell, even my Pop listened to it and he was way critical of the news.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Dec 12, 2015 - 10:28pm PT
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Agree that the BBC was factual, but no longer.
John
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Dec 12, 2015 - 10:56pm PT
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Re: The Chief's Meme: Cain offered God the best he could, but that wasn't good enough for super fussy, biggest dick ever, God.
BTW, what is so wrong with the US that it should be scared of ISIS? Not enough guns? Afraid God really doesn't give a sh#t?
Should have posted this under the Friday Night While Drunk thread...
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 07:07am PT
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Ranking who is "more racist" (whatever that means) isn't that helpful in a country with entrenched institutional racism that requires nothing of us to continue in perpetuity.
In economic news:
The middle class is no longer the majority economic class. It made up 61% of all Americans in 1970. Median middle class income has dropped by 4% over the last 15 years and median wealth has dropped by 15 percent. The top 0.1% of Americans have the same amount of wealth as the bottom 90%.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 13, 2015 - 07:40am PT
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Is that news? I thought that's been pretty well established, for those who care to hear it.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired Climber
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Dec 13, 2015 - 08:32am PT
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Actions make racist. Know them by their actions. They cross all political spectrums.
DMT
And races
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 13, 2015 - 09:57am PT
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Ranking who is "more racist" (whatever that means) isn't that helpful in a country with entrenched institutional racism that requires nothing of us to continue in perpetuity.
It does. It explains why parties have different world views and policies.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Dec 13, 2015 - 11:04am PT
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The Republcan Party is morphing into the White Nationalist Party. They had all this talk after the Romney loss about aiming to be more inclusive...the opposite happened. The true nature of the majority of their voters has been revealed.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 11:21am PT
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Meanwhile, the Democratic stronghold of New York City has the most segregated school system in the country. It's easy to be a vocal critic of cartoonish racism.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Dec 13, 2015 - 11:24am PT
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I hope you all get a chance to see Aya's story on Fareed Zakaria GPS this morning.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 13, 2015 - 03:23pm PT
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