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philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2015 - 03:36pm PT
So three victims (no dead) from a machete attack and the perp is quickly subdued.
And if he had a semi automatic with a 30 round mag?


HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Dec 5, 2015 - 03:42pm PT
TGT posted
Islamonazis manage to make do without guns.

Clearly we should make sure that they have easy access to semi-auto and automatic weapons.
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2015 - 03:48pm PT
Las Vegas ASSembly woman Michele Fiore sez


Merry Christmas from the AmeriKKKunts.
WWJP What would Jesus pack
An AR-15 of course.
The weapon of choice for modern mass murderers.



OUT OF CONTROL
Gun used in the San Bernardino massacre is a mass shooting mainstay
One of the guns used to kill 14 people in San Bernardino, CA this past week has also been used in mass shooting after mass shooting in recent years.

The AR-15—a semi-automatic rifle that one of its makers, Colt, describes as being produced for “our Armed Forces”—has played an outsized role in America’s gun massacres, as CBS News summarized on Friday:

An AR-15 was used to kill nine people at Umpqua Community College in Oregon in October.

It was also the weapon used in the murders of 12 people at a Colorado movie theater in 2012.

And an AR-15 was used in the 2012 murders of 20 first graders and six adults in Newtown, Connecticut.

CBS spoke to a gun store owner who called the AR-15 “America’s rifle” and added, “You’re going to find more of those in safes at home than you’ll find of any other rifle in the country.”

Sales of the AR-15 spiked after the Newtown shootings, as potential gun owners feared—wrongly, it turned out—that they might be subject to new gun control restrictions. Though the market has cooled off a bit recently. They’re popular because, as CNN noted, they can be customized in a dizzying number of ways. One manufacturer gives purchasers at least 17 different ways to build on its basic model.

As it happens, the AR-15s used in the San Bernardino shooting was illegal under California law because of the way it had been customized.

Some forms of the AR-15 were banned under the 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban, but the ban expired in 2004.

So obviously the NRA's response should be to promote a pink and purple my little pony version of the AR-15.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 5, 2015 - 03:54pm PT
Clearly we should make sure that they have easy access to semi-auto and automatic weapons.

Don't need to. The second amendment says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Doesn't exclude anyone, The NRA says.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 5, 2015 - 04:42pm PT
Is this really the world you want kids to be forced to grow up in simply to maintain your irrational need to be packing 24/7?

Are you asking a generation that was taught the same defense against nuclear weapons?

Duck and cover was official US policy in the 50's and 60's. They didn't give even us a blanket.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 5, 2015 - 05:12pm PT
A foreigner has the same right to be spared punishment by drawing and quartering ("corruption of blood" ) that a citizen has. Rest easy, Canadians.

"Corruption of blood" has nothing to do with "drawing and quartering" (other than both being historical punishments).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attainder
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2015 - 05:17pm PT

Is this really the world you want kids to be forced to grow up in simply to maintain your irrational need to be packing 24/7?

Are you asking a generation that was taught the same defense against nuclear weapons?

Duck and cover was official US policy in the 50's and 60's. They didn't give even us a blanket.

Well that was my generations fire breathing dragon and the parallel is not lost on me.
But then the answer to the insanity was not more bombs and nuclear prolifferation was it?
Wonder if the parallel will be lost on the gunhuggers.
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2015 - 05:33pm PT
How They Got Their Guns
By LARRY BUCHANAN, JOSH KELLER, RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr. and DANIEL VICTOR UPDATED December 3, 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?_r=0

The vast majority of guns used in 15 recent mass shootings, including at least two of the guns used in the San Bernardino attack, were bought legally and with a federal background check. At least eight gunmen had criminal histories or documented mental health problems that did not prevent them from obtaining their weapons.

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 5, 2015 - 05:40pm PT

Phylo,
So by your own admission the big government you want to put in charge of confiscation is incompetent?

Says the shoe resoler about someone that had gone to the Supreme court and won more than once.


Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 5, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
Philo,

The San Bernardino terrorists didn't legally obtain any of those guns. Just by being in possession of those guns, those two were committing felonies.

You need to smarten-up regarding the gun laws in California.
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2015 - 05:43pm PT
OVER SEVERAL YEARS
The F.B.I. found evidence that Mr. Farook was in touch with people domestically and abroad who have Islamist extremist views, according to officials.

BEFORE SHOOTING
The chief of the San Bernardino Police Department said he was not aware of the suspects having any previous contact with law enforcement.

BEFORE SHOOTING
Mr. Farook bought the two handguns legally at Annie’s Get Your Gun, a gun store in Corona, Calif., The Los Angeles Times reported. Someone who is not a suspect bought the two assault rifles legally, officials said, but it is unclear how the attackers obtained them, or whether that transaction was legal.

DEC. 2, 2015
The couple killed 14 people at a holiday party. Moments before the attack began, Ms. Malik posted an oath of alligience to the Islamic State on Facebook.
WBraun

climber
Dec 5, 2015 - 05:49pm PT
All bullsh!t you've been 0wned again.

The whole thing was a criminal setup where they murdered two people and framed them.

Stoopid nutcase Americans believe everything spoon fed to then by their criminal media ...
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2015 - 05:50pm PT
Christopher Harper-Mercer, 26, killed nine people at Umpqua Community College in Oregon, where he was a student. He was armed with six guns, including a Glock pistol, a Smith & Wesson pistol, a Taurus pistol and a Del-Ton assault rifle, according to The Associated Press.
2008
Mr. Harper-Mercer was in the Army for one month, but was discharged before completing basic training.

2009
He graduated from the Switzer Learning Center in Torrance, Calif., which teaches students with learning disabilities and emotional issues.

BEFORE SHOOTING
In all, Mr. Harper-Mercer owned 14 firearms, all of which were bought legally through a federally licensed firearms dealer, a federal official said. Some were bought by Mr. Harper-Mercer, and some by members of his family.

OCT. 1, 2015
He killed nine people in Roseburg, Ore.
Norton

Social climber
Dec 5, 2015 - 05:51pm PT
Mr. Farook bought the two handguns legally at Annie’s Get Your Gun, a gun store in Corona, Calif., T


and back to you Chaz to refute that.......
philo

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2015 - 05:52pm PT
AUG. 26, 2015
Vester Lee Flanagan II, 41, shot and killed a Roanoke, Va., television reporter and a cameraman with a Glock handgun while they were reporting a story live.

2000
Mr. Flanagan filed a lawsuit against a TV station in Tallahassee, Fla., that had fired him, alleging he was the victim of racial slurs and bullying.

2012
He was hired at WDBJ in Roanoke, but within months his bosses had documented problems with his harsh language and aggressive behavior. He was later fired and filed another harassment lawsuit.

JUNE 2015
Federal officials said Mr. Flanagan bought the gun legally from a licensed dealer. He had not been convicted of a crime or determined to be mentally ill.

AUG. 26, 2015
Mr. Flanagan killed the reporter and cameraman, injured a woman who was being interviewed and died after shooting himself.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 5, 2015 - 05:54pm PT
You still refuse to deal with the fact that the "religion of peace" in reality is the death cult of the child molesting warlord.

The feds, his family, fellow mosque members all looked the other way.

How come?

Even the neighbor who saw the bomb factory in the garage was dissuaded from saying anything so not to be assumed "racist".

10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired Climber
Dec 5, 2015 - 06:18pm PT

Ted Cruz is such a fuking idiot...

+1
Was he the model for Bob's Big Boy?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 5, 2015 - 06:27pm PT
Hoe many cases have you taken to the Supremes and won?
Norton

Social climber
Dec 5, 2015 - 06:31pm PT
Truth be told, TGT, you are correct

Islam is indeed a "religion of peace"

There are over 1.5 BILLION Muslims practicing Islam in the world

of which only a very small percentage are radicalized, extremists


kind of like your good old Christian Bible, isn't it?

where it commands humans to rape, murder and enslave other murders

but by far most Christians don't believe that nonsense

just like by far most Muslims don't buy into the bad sh#t in the Koran

thanks for pointing this out, TGT

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 5, 2015 - 06:32pm PT
http://theaviationist.com/2015/12/05/fbi-activity-san-bernardino-attack/

Islam is indeed a "religion of peace"

Read the Koran cover to cover and sample the Hadiths and come back and tell us if you still hold the same view.
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