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Off White

climber

Tenino, WA

Nov 20, 2015 - 12:47pm PT

climber and route?

Off White

climber

Tenino, WA

Nov 20, 2015 - 12:49pm PT

Oh, and Roy applying the beta to answer any questions about the problem.

Sweet Jeebus, how can 16' of rock be so difficult?

Jon Clark

climber

philadelphia

Nov 20, 2015 - 12:52pm PT

Burch,

That boulder is near Vomitorium? Where? Reckon I ain't never laid eyes on it.

Friend

climber

Nov 20, 2015 - 12:57pm PT

The first shot looks like Lemon Chiffon. I don't know the climber but that is one proud looking chalk bag.

Ditto Roy's hat!

darkmagus

Mountain climber

San Diego, CA

Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2015 - 01:28pm PT

Another vote for Lemon Chiffon on that first pic!

If you stand up on one of those Vomitorium slabs (the one without the bolts), look in a southwesterly direction, you'll see it (the tips egg)!

Friend

climber

Nov 20, 2015 - 01:58pm PT

@Jon C
I'm all for running shorts, I put on a pair most afternoons right after work. But on Mother Superior? Sheesh. That's a climb I hold in high regard (fear) and the times I have messed around on it, it's been in full riot gear - long pants, rubgy shirt, $6 worth of tape sprayed everywhere. Shorts on that strikes me the same way as Mike Paul hiking HMT in his sneaks. Like, beyond rad. What's next? Big Grunt in the nude? God I hope not, you could get banned posting a photo of that, and rightly so.

California Night - what a trick sequence that thing is. 5 stars. The Bachar problems are always sweet.

skcreidc

Social climber

SD, CA

Nov 20, 2015 - 02:05pm PT

^^^^ Come on Friend! You could make the all male edition of the stone nude calender ;)

This thread is ALIVE again. Nice photos and history guys. I only knew Carl Muller as a good geology student at SDSU. That is a sweet shot of him on MS!

bvb

Social climber

flagstaff arizona

Nov 20, 2015 - 02:30pm PT

The first shot looks like Lemon Chiffon. I don't know the climber but that is one proud looking chalk bag.

Close, Andrew. It's the face on the boulder just left of Lemon Chiffon, a really good 5.10 with some classically demanding footwork. A bit highball as well, just for fun. The climber is Tom Scott, OG Poway Mountain Boy, used to hang with George Mason et. al. of Canadian fame[?] I think I got all those details right. Somebody else will have to fact check it for me. Being stuck in what is basically a nursing home with nothing to do but sleep in, work out, and drink coffee is taking it's toll on my mental acuity...

Jon Clark

climber

philadelphia

Nov 20, 2015 - 03:15pm PT

Big Grunt in the nude? God I hope not, you could get banned posting a photo of that, and rightly so.

The first time I climbed BG, I did it shirtless. The next logical step would indeed be nude.

Jesus that would be horrible, but imagine the gasps you'd get from the potato chip crowd on a nice weekend afternoon. Too bad it's not a stemming problem.

Off White

climber

Tenino, WA

Nov 20, 2015 - 05:51pm PT

Yup, what BVB said. I don't recall Tom Scott's pedigree, aside from the fact he's always been intimidatingly competent.

Tarbuster wears that swell chapeau for a reason, though Friend makes it amply clear that Samson didn't need the hair in the first place.

BeeHay

Trad climber

San Diego CA

Nov 21, 2015 - 08:12am PT

That's not Tom Scott, and he's not a Poway Boy.

bvb

Social climber

flagstaff arizona

Nov 22, 2015 - 05:40pm PT

That's not Tom Scott, and he's not a Poway Boy.

I thought he looked too young to be Tom, but the face is shaded at a weird angle. I knew he was with us at California Night, and the nest thing we went to was Lemon Chiffon. I think. Is that Scruffy? Just who is that mystery dude!?

bvb

Social climber

flagstaff arizona

Nov 22, 2015 - 05:44pm PT

And speaking of climbers who became geologists, I was watching a program on the Discovery Channel today that featured Alan Lester waxing poetic about the Rocky Mountains, *AND* Karl Karlstom going on about how they have discovered sediment from the Appalachian mountains way, way down in the strata of the Grand Canyon. WTF!? What are the chances? I figure the producer of that episode just has to be a climber. Karl, you need to get yourself a gig like that.

Karl Mueller

Trad climber

Boulder CO

Nov 22, 2015 - 07:04pm PT

In response to your last comment Bob, I did help National Geographic with a TV special on Canyonlands a few years ago. They filmed me waxing poetic in the middle of Upheaval Dome in Island in the Sky. I had a bunch of students haul heavy cameras and booms all the way into the dome from the White Rim to help them out. We climbed directly up the south side on the way out and the producer was none to happy about the exposure. I know Alan well (climbed and taught with him for years) and he is definitely into getting his mug on TV (and is good at it). I've worked with the NPS in Arches and Canyonlands on both sides of the river to help them understand the complicated geology out there, including lectures, field trips and making imagery for them for the Fiery Furnace. Unfortunately the latest head honcho out there doesn't believe in that sort of thing, which is frustrating. Most NPS staff have backgrounds in biology, so some expert geologic knowledge of the parks they are working in would help them serve the public better. And these parks in particular are geologic wonderlands. Once you understand the geology, they become even more amazing. But that's minor cross to bear in the larger scheme of things I guess.

bvb

Social climber

flagstaff arizona

Nov 22, 2015 - 10:24pm PT

Did National Geo wind up using the footage of you at Upheaval in a different episode? Did they ever settle on a concrete cause for the formation? I know what you mean about subject matter expertise. I have no formal training in Geology but after 8 years in management at Cap Reef I got to where I could interpret the park's geology pretty well for the lay audience. "First, imagine a vast inland sea..." got to be a running joke. Capitol Reef in my favorite National Park, and the Waterpocket Fold is my favorite feature on the Colorad Plateau. I like the west side of the Colorado River...the Henry's, the Aquarius Plateau, Circle Cliffs, the Swell, the Kaiparowits, Robber's Roost, the Little Rockies, the Escalante River drainage, the Fold...man I'll tell you what that's some good sh#t right there. The Strike Valley overlook is the single best viewpoint in all of Red Rock country, IMHO.

Karl Mueller

Trad climber

Boulder CO

Nov 26, 2015 - 07:50pm PT

Hey Bob In answer to your question, essentially all the strata and geologic structures in Upheaval Dome can be readily attributed to the long term growth over tens of millions of years of a now pinched off salt diapir. Basically a mushroom shaped salt body that pierced the surface of the Earth. There are many of these things currently growing and spreading in the western Zagros of Iran. That said, Upheaval is unique among the salt structures in the Paradox Basin (which are more typically elongate salt walls that have extensional faults and rollovers developed above them as they collapse due to dissolution in ground and river water) Even the salt experts agree it could have been initiated as an impact structure when a thin sequence of older strata lay above the Paradox Formation. The oldest strata in the core of the dome is Moenkopi Fm, which lies upsection from older strata that might preserve a record of impact such as deformation lamellae or high pressure mineral phases such as stishovite or coesite. NatGeo did use a bit of the footage they shot of me, explaining sedimentary structures in strata and the geologic history of the region. It was totally unscripted, which I found a little hard to deal with. I would approach it differently if I did it in the future.