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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 23, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
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Compression artifacts, sun angles, camera lenses, can make the pics look a little different. Finger prints and/or prescription should tell the story sooner than dna.
Maybe a fingerprint could lead to the person that found them, who could then say where they were found originally.
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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 23, 2013 - 09:39pm PT
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I don't have my topo on me right now (headed home in a few) but it looks to be about 8k is the surface, perhaps a little bit lower.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Aug 23, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
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Google earth shows lake at 8100 feet.
USGS shows about 2440 meters or approx 8000ft
37.691461
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Aug 23, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
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To me, the the outside bottom corners of the glasses that Alex found at the trailhead look a little squarer than the corners of Matt's glasses in the Facebook picture, which seem a little more rounded. The glasses Matt is wearing seem a bit more angled and rounded. But it's hard to tell from that angle.
And the dreams and the images from the psychic are spooky! I hope this is the big break we've been hoping for.
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
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Tony texted me say there was a pair of glasses in Matt's car. That's not to say it wasn't a spare. Asked him to get me info on the ones in car for comparison. We'll see if it's yay or nay...
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:03pm PT
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Any optician can compare two pairs of glasses. They may have different prescriptions but the differences between the two eyes should be similar for the same person.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
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x1n54n3x,
Where did you exactly find the glasses again? At the trail-head on the ground? Did someone else already find them and place them there? You were the one to hang them so others could see them and possibly claim them?
Just wondering? If you weren't the original one to find them who was and where?
Thanks for what you have done for helping to solve this mystery.
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
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In looking at other pictures of Matt wearing glasses, he had others. HOWEVER, they were all in the same style. It appears that throughout the years he got new glasses (as we all do) but stuck to the same basic style as shown in these pics.
How common are these glasses?
He could have some in his car that were his back-up for driving only.
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maverick01
climber
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
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Just got off the phone with Tom, Matthew's friend, who will be
checking out the photo's and hopefully be able to identify them
as being Matthew's or not. The facebook photo and the recovered
glasses are different (there is a black frame visible on the upper
and side portion of the glasses, but the facebook shot has no
frame visible), hope I am wrong and this facebook photo was taken
a while back and he has had new prescriptions made since.
Dave should be on his way to the Minarets.
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SplitPants
Social climber
LA
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:21pm PT
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Hi,
I tried to zoom in on the glasses a bit. Because this is not a vector file when you increase the resolution etc you lose some quality. I used photoshop in conjunction with a program called ben vista and blow up 3.
I would be interested in the opinion of others (my eyes are tired). To me (and my eye sight isnt great) the top of the glasses (meaning the frame over the top of each eye) looks non-existent and the frame over the bridge of the nose looks different.
Hope this helps in some small way. Ultimately Matts optometrist in PA would know for certain I would think.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:21pm PT
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The frame at the top and inside by the nose is visible. There is no frame at the bottom, just like the ones found at the trailhead.
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tdg119
Social climber
Northampton, PA
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:23pm PT
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The ones in his car are the ones from the picture w/ cap. They're Nike brand. Doesn't mean he didn't have a spare. Will be doing some hunting to find his optometrist and/or RX tomorrow.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
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That settles that, they are not the same. But, the overall style is the same. Still very promising.
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jeg
Social climber
center valley,Pa
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
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I went through our pictures this year and I don't have one of Matt in his glasses this summer. He wore the strap with his sunglasses but I didn't see him ever where the strap with his perscription glasses.
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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:30pm PT
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x1n54n3x,
Where did you exactly find the glasses again? At the trail-head on the ground? Did someone else already find them and place them there? You were the one to hang them so others could see them and possibly claim them?
Just wondering? If you weren't the original one to find them who was and where?
Thanks for what you have done for helping to solve this mystery.
When I arrived at the trailhead, they were already hanging. I am unsure as to who found them or when they were found.
The post they were on is the further of the two trails (they both parallel eachother, but one goes directly to the lower crater, the other to the upper crater). It is perfectly believable that the majority of people who visit this spot venture off out on the first trail because they simply do not know the second trail exists. When I arrived there were maybe 3 or 4 cars parked at the first trail, whereas there was only one other besides my own at the second. They are only separated by a couple hundred feet.
Regarding the frames, when I blew up the facebook photo, it appeared that the black frames surrounded only the top of the glasses, just like the ones I found. The shape of the lenses, width of the arms and proportion of the location of the bridge all seem to match, but again, the facebook photo becomes distorted at 300%.
The rockfall: I realize we've had some serious rains in the past month, but I believe the debris I pointed out look less weathered than the rest. The rest of the surrounding rock and dirt having experienced several years or seasons of settling. It just looked different to me- but I am not an expert. The wall above the debris looked especially unstable as well.
I will be going back out with a couple people as well as our dogs tomorrow morning around 8 a.m. If anyone in the area would like to join, shoot me a pm.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:31pm PT
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Possibly, the person who found the glasses used their strap to hold them in a very visible and secure spot on the sign.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
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x1n54n3x,
Thank you for the detail.
Wow, obviously trying to track down the person/people who first found the glasses and where is vital. I hope word gets out and they come forward.
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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:39pm PT
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I realize typing"x1n54n3x" can be a pain, feel free to call me Alex.
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:39pm PT
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He'd likely get the glasses near his home. Shouldn't take too long to get the info and compare prescriptions.
Still doesn't account for the missing gear.
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x1n54n3x
Boulder climber
mammoth lakes
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Aug 23, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
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The temples on the ones I found contain different colors, the centers are gunmetalish. We have determined though that Matt had Nike glasses though, maybe he picked these up because his were left in the car?
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