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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 26, 2010 - 02:29pm PT
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Fatty,
You forgot to mention that Iran has 100 'naval units' for every US Navy ship!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 26, 2010 - 02:39pm PT
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Iranian "naval unit"
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bluering
Trad climber
CA
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Jul 28, 2010 - 11:19am PT
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From Eqyptian cleric Hussam Fawzi Jabar;
Hussam Fawzi Jabar: "This is the nature of the Jews. By nature, they abhor keeping their commitments. By nature, they hate peace. By nature, they love treachery, betrayal, deception, killing, and blood. This is their nature.
"It is very sad to see some of our own people, who speak our own tongue, try to convince their peoples that the Jews are peace-loving, that a solution to the satisfaction of both parties can be reached with them. I say that whoever says this and tries to convince others should either deny what is said in the Koran and the Sunna, and accept what the Jews say as truth, or else deny what the Jews say and accept what is said in the Koran and the Sunna. There is no third alternative.
"The Jews are not happy living among their neighbors unless they are harboring hatred toward them, betraying, and deceiving them. They are always ready and prepared to generate reasons for this. This is why the West in its entirety got rid of the Jews, by creating a new country for them in Palestine. They spew them out away from them, and gave them a new country, at the expense of Islam and the Muslims.
"At the same time, the West uses the Jews as a pitchfork with which to stab the giant [Islam] whenever it begins to awaken. If Egypt arises, Israel goes to war with it. If Syria arises, Israel begins clashes with it. If Lebanon arises, Israel starts conflicts with it. When Iraq arose, global Zionism mobilized the entire Western world to occupy Iraq. When Afghanistan arose... And so on and so forth... It stabs the giant [Islam] whenever it wants to awaken.
"One of the most amazing things I have read is that Hitler said: 'I could have annihilated all the Jews of the world, but I left some of them, so that you would understand why I did this to them.' Hitler was right to say what he said and to do what he did to the Jews.
"When Pakistan separated from India in 1947, nine million Pakistani Muslims were killed although India had vouched for their safety. There is clear enmity [toward the Muslims] among all nations. Today, India practices compulsory sterilization of Muslim men in order to curb the growth of their population.
"In Communist and atheist Russia, they would put the Muslims into meat grinders, and they would come out from the other side as minced meat or cold cuts. All this because [the Russians] believe in a religion other than Islam."
Nice...
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bluering
Trad climber
CA
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Jul 28, 2010 - 11:24pm PT
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Ahad, nice spin.
The Bedouins were illegally squatting on the land and were chased off.
Ethnic cleansing? Tell that to the Christians in Pakistan or Nigeria.
Next....
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jul 28, 2010 - 11:26pm PT
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Did you get a chance to talk with Bill and Hillary about this on Saturday? Their daughter has just married someone who is (nominally) Jewish, too.
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bluering
Trad climber
CA
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Their daughter has just married someone who is (nominally) Jewish, too.
Aside from Fatty and a couple other Jews here, Jews are committing suicide, they may as well walk their brethren into the ovens of Iran...
It's like the Manhattan lib Jews forget history...f*#king fools. History will repeat itself.
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couchmaster
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pdx
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If murdering unarmed doctors on a mercy mission is a clash, here ya are.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100807/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan;_ylt=Avj4NFKgEVQPq7vieHyjb_Cs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTJmaTd0Y3V1BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwODA3L2FzX2FmZ2hhbmlzdGFuBGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDMwRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNmdWxsbmJzcHN0b3I-
"KABUL, Afghanistan – Ten members of a medical team, including six Americans, were shot and killed by militants as they were returning from providing eye treatment and other health care in remote villages in northern Afghanistan, a spokesman for the team said Saturday.
Dirk Frans, director of the International Assistance Mission, said one German, one Briton and two Afghans also were part of the team that made the three-week trip to Nuristan province. They drove to the province, left their vehicles and hiked for hours with pack horses over mountainous terrain to reach the Parun valley in the province's northwest.
Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid told The Associated Press that they killed the foreigners because they were "spying for the Americans" and "preaching Christianity."
Frans said the International Assistance Mission, the longest serving nongovernmental organization operating in Afghanistan, is registered as a nonprofit Christian organization but does not proselytize.
"This tragedy negatively impacts our ability to continue serving the Afghan people as IAM has been doing since 1966," the charity said in a statement. "We hope it will not stop our work that benefits over a quarter of a million Afghans each year."
The team, made up of doctors, nurses and logistics personnel, was attacked as it was returning to Kabul after the two-week mission in Nuristan, Frans said. They had decided to travel through Badakhshan province to return to the capital because they thought it would be the safest route, Frans said.
Among the dead was team leader Tom Little, an optometrist from Delmar, New York, who has been working in Afghanistan for more than 30 years, Frans said. Another relief organization, Bridge Afghanistan, said on its website that the group included one of its members, Dr. Karen Woo of London.
Little, who oversaw eye hospitals in Kabul and two other major cities as well as small clinics in three smaller towns, had been expelled by the Taliban government in August 2001 after the arrest of eight Christian aid workers — two Americans and six Germans — for allegedly trying to convert Afghans to Christianity. He returned to live in Afghanistan after the Taliban government was toppled in November 2001 by U.S.-backed forces.
Frans said he lost contact with Little on Wednesday. On Friday, a third Afghan member of the team, who survived the attack, called to report the killings. A fourth Afghan member of the team was not killed because he took a different route home because he had family in Jalalabad, Frans said.
According to Frans, two members of the team worked for IAM, two were former IAM workers and four others were affiliated with other organizations, which he did not disclose. He said five of the Americans were men and one was a woman. The Briton and German also were women.
Gen. Agha Noor Kemtuz, police chief in Badakhshan province, said the victims, who had been shot, were found Friday next to three bullet-riddled four-wheel drive vehicles in Kuran Wa Munjan district. He said villagers had warned the team that the area was dangerous, but the foreigners said they were doctors and weren't afraid. He said local police said about 10 gunmen robbed them and killed them one by one.
He said the two dead Afghans were interpreters from Bamiyan and Panjshir provinces. The third Afghan who survived "told me he was shouting and reciting the holy Quran and saying 'I am Muslim. Don't kill me,'" Kemtuz said.
Frans told The Associated Press that he was skeptical the Taliban were responsible and that the team had studied security conditions carefully before proceeding with the mission. The team trekked from village to village during the two weeks, treating about 400 people for eye disorders and other illnesses.
"We are a humanitarian organization. We had no security people. We had no armed guards. We had no weapons," he said.
In a blog posting last month, Woo said the expedition would include an eye doctor, a dental surgeon "as well as me as the general practioner."
"The trek will not be easy; it will take three weeks and be done on foot and with packhorses — no vehicles can access the mountainous terrain," she wrote. "The expedition will require a lot of physical and mental resolve and will not be without risk but ultimately, I believe that the provision of medical treatment is of fundamental importance and that the effort is worth it in order to assist those that need it most."
Elsewhere, five Afghans were killed and 13 were wounded Saturday when a bomb struck a police vehicle in the Nahri-Saraj district of Helmand province in the south, the Interior Ministry said. Four of the dead were police, but all but one of the wounded were civilians. In Gereshk district, one Afghan policeman and a civilian were killed and 16 other people were wounded Saturday morning when a bomb exploded in a market, said Kamaluddin Khan, local security chief.
The NATO-led coalition also reported the arrests late Friday of two suspected insurgents in Kandahar province and of "several" suspected members of the Haqqani network, a Taliban faction with close ties to al-Qaida, in the eastern province of Khost.
The coalition also said two NATO troops were killed during an explosion Saturday in southern Afghanistan. NATO did not release any details of the incident or the nationalities of the troops.
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Associated Press writers Amir Shah and Deb Riechmann in Kabul and Mirwais Khan in Kandahar contributed to this report."
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gonamok
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aging malcontent
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There is no way the US is going to tangle with Iran. Bush was stupid enough to do it, but thank god he is gone.
Who has decided that military action is inevitable? Whomever it was, you need to quit repeating what you hear and get the info to come to an informed conclusion of your own.
What a bunch of baloney.
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