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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Feb 14, 2009 - 04:07pm PT
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Thank you Jaybro.
Name calling and labels add nothing positive to a conversation
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Feb 14, 2009 - 04:31pm PT
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Yeah, right, just how positive can this kind of conversation ever be anyway? Two opposite opinions with no real middle ground. Straw-men and ad hominem rhetoric pushing everyone around. And inevitably everyone is irritated and still believes what they want and choose to believe.
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Feb 14, 2009 - 04:45pm PT
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No one really seems to know eactly what it is with you Werner. You barge into these threads like Mr. Super Guru, push people around and act like a dick. Even your buddies seem to wonder what's up with the aggression. But I'm no fool, so you can sincerely f*#k off on that count. Go rescue somebody, big guy.
Oh right, and if you're pissed at Norton for something off topic, start a new thread about it. WTF.
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Feb 14, 2009 - 04:55pm PT
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Stalk you? As in answer some of your comments every so often? Dude, lose the cabin fever.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Sep 13, 2010 - 12:36am PT
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I just finished reading "The Voyage of the Beagle" Darwin's first book detailing his 5 year voyage round the world as professional Naturalist on the a mapping detail let by Captain Fitzroy. Small climbing connection there.
It's a great read as an adventure book. Darwin reveals much of his personality and is a nice guy. His observations are fascinating. Most of the trip is spent in South America.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Sep 13, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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Here's some additiona grist for the mill: Astronomers have recently discovered both naphthalene and anthracene in interstellar gas clouds. Both of these compounds, in combination with water and Ultraviolet radiation can form amino acids, essential building blocks of life.
Recovery of the Japanese "Hyubasa" space probe return capsule, sent to sample the surface of an asteroid, may also determine if amino acids are present on the surface of another astronomical body.
One of the newer but well-received theories is referred to as "panspermia" or that life is everywhere, We just need to look for it.
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Tricouni
Mountain climber
Vancouver
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Sep 13, 2010 - 02:46am PT
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One of the newer but well-received theories is referred to as "panspermia" or that life is everywhere ... It's actually an old idea. The idea (and the term) were coined by the Swedish chemist Arrhenius in 1908. (Arrhenius, BTW, did some good calculations on the effect of doubling CO2 in the atmosphere and came up with a value which is close to the presently accepted value.)
The panspermia idea was pushed by British astronomer Fred Hoyle, beginning in 1964. The hpothesis doesn't say much, in itself, for or against Darwinian evolution. Life may have originated here on earth (the standard model) or on some other planet (panspermia). But no matter: once here, life still had to bootstrap itself to be what we see today.
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Sep 13, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
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Let me introduce my friend 'Chris Smither'
He can explain it all quite simply when it comes to:
Origin Of Species
"Lions don't eat cabbage and in spite of that old adage...
You'll never see one lie down with a lamb!"
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