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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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These are a few gems I scored from the recent Bourgeois eBay auction from France. I am not sure what year the crude pitons were created. I don't think the maker of the ice piton is the same as the crude pitons. The Charlet Moser pitons are much heavier than the ones I have already in the museum.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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These were the climbing items that were up for bid in the Bourgeois eBay auction from France. There were two sets of climbing items being auctioned throughout a two week period. I was tempted to bid on a few items in the second auction set but shipping to the USA was very steep.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oh, I really like that game-of-thrones looking middle pin with the curious attachment back up there in the first pic - clever.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Aug 19, 2017 - 12:25pm PT
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Does anybody know what manufacturer created the Piton Carrier, and what year it was first created?
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Aug 19, 2017 - 08:30pm PT
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Lorenzo - Thanks!
From Vertical Archaeology - " The sticker on the spine reads “made in western Germany”. Stéphane Pennequin informs me that it was designed by H. Strathmann in 1961, and predates the heart shaped version in our archives."
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Aug 25, 2017 - 11:13am PT
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Grivel Dhaulagiri hammer
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Aug 26, 2017 - 04:17pm PT
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Awesome nutstory! Thanks for the info!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Aug 26, 2017 - 04:23pm PT
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Marlow - Thanks for your amazing donation to the Karabin Climbing Museum. I have dreamed for many years of being able to find one of these Salewa sliders! A truly wonderful piece of climbing craftsmanship!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Aug 26, 2017 - 04:36pm PT
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The buyer states that these pitons are definitely from 1880-1890 era which I can believe. But I keep looking at them in wonder as of why the piton end is so heavily hammered and the blade shows little scaring. My thoughts are that the pitons were created for the logging industry so the blades were being pounded over and over into green timber and not hard stone. I have a few modern logging pitons that look the same as these ancient relics, which were used to tie logs together into rafts where workers could stand more firmly on as they worked with stray logs being floated down rivers. Also used to assist in tying loads on carts or trucks or other uses with timber. I am sure some of these logging pitons made it into the mountains to serve as main anchor points on the big mountain routes, but I believe they were originally created for the logging industry.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Sep 11, 2017 - 06:05am PT
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Old mystery karabiner...???
Edit: after further research, I am wondering if this mysterious karabiner would not be the first generation designed by Sebastian Mariner in 1950...?
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Sep 12, 2017 - 06:59am PT
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nutstory - This is a page from the 1955 Sporthaus Schuster catalog....compliments Marlow. It shows two different karabiners. The bigger karabiner 3915 says it weighs 120 grams. Could this be your mystery karabiner?
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Sep 12, 2017 - 08:15am PT
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Here are two better photographs of these karabiners (the previous photograph was taken with a mobile).
The karabiner on the left weighs 103g, the one on the right weighs 126g.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Sep 12, 2017 - 09:03am PT
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Hmmmm... All of my MARWA, Stubai and ASMU carabiners of that shape are made of steel. I have not seen that aluminum version before. I thought the karabiner shown in that catalog was aluminum, but yours is a little less weight than the one listed. The mystery continues........
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Sep 12, 2017 - 11:19am PT
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I have never before seen anything like Nutstory's aluminium biner.
Forrest Titon T3: What's the story of this model? I seldom see this Titon logo.
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Sep 12, 2017 - 11:30am PT
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Donini:
Chouinard revolutionized ice climbing both in the development of new techniques and equipment. Likewise, Yosemite did the same for rockclimbing. The concept of free climbing without grabbing the occasional piece (French free), big wall techniques, and innovative gear like cams all had their genesis in the Valley.
All very true with maybe the exception of "The concept of free climbing without grabbing the occasional piece ...". I believe that concept was born at Tahquitz with Royal and a few of the Sierra Club RCS climbers (circa 1952) before they migrated to the Valley for the long haul.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Sep 13, 2017 - 12:25am PT
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Marlow:
Forrest Titon T3: What's the story of this model? I seldom see this Titon logo. Most, if not all Forrest items, have such a logo: a stylized FM (that stands for Forrest Mountaineering) inserted within a little tree.
A few months ago, I acquired two very old Titons with a logo without this little tree. I suspect that these two chocks might well be rather rare, as they may predate the anodized version.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Sep 13, 2017 - 08:17am PT
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Nutstory.
For sure, the two Titons look old.
I know the FM tree. It is seen on most Forrest Titons. What is special about the one I posted is the frame/rectangle around the tree. I guess I have seen 150 Forrest Titons, but this rectangle only once. I would be surprised if it isn't found more often than I see it.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Sep 13, 2017 - 08:58am PT
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All very true with maybe the exception of "The concept of free climbing without grabbing the occasional piece ...". I believe that concept was born at Tahquitz with Royal and a few of the Sierra Club RCS climbers (circa 1952) before they migrated to the Valley for the long haul.
Wasn't also the concept of "free climbing" known at least in the Dresden area in the early 1900's? And in the Dolomites? England?
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