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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jun 17, 2016 - 07:39pm PT
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I see my point fell on deaf ears. A radical Islamic TERRORIST committed this heinous act...
I see my point fell on deaf ears. A radical religious TERRORIST committed this heinous act...
That's more accurate.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 17, 2016 - 07:43pm PT
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Bullsheeit. A crazy [fill in your choice] guy did the crime. He'd have dumped it on any available spot.
Here's a point in the right direction.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jun 17, 2016 - 07:53pm PT
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I'll match anyone pic for pic of republicans being born.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:02pm PT
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That's more accurate.
how bout radically confused anti-religion homosexual committed this heinous act?
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:03pm PT
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If I ever said, "can they" in stating an opinion as it referred to the legitimacy of LGTB people living in my city, "They" would probably give some static in my face about the nature of being born, skcreidc.
Maybe because I don't hang in this thread much, but you totally lost me as to what your point is there Jim B. Otherwise my general response is...... uh yea, they are a bit on the militant side in this day and age. At least in San Diego. Being straight myself...well, never mind.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:06pm PT
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I'd stick with radically confused and add self loathing. He apparently was a relatively devout muslim.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:19pm PT
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He apparently was a relatively devout muslim.
yeah well, looks can be deceiving. Jus cuz a guy bows 5 times a day doesn't mean he knows god.
goes for his dad too.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Jun 17, 2016 - 08:25pm PT
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^^^^^very true....
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jun 18, 2016 - 02:07pm PT
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In calling Orlando the worst mass shooting in American history, everyone ignores or excuses the shootings committed by government.
Credit: http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.7195
Just saying'.
ff
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Jun 18, 2016 - 02:52pm PT
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Those guys sure looked an awful lot like Nazis when I first looked at the picture
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jun 18, 2016 - 03:01pm PT
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Remember when, after the OKC bombing, people called for sendng all the white males out of the country? Yeah, neither do I.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Jun 18, 2016 - 03:40pm PT
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In calling Orlando the worst mass shooting in American history, everyone ignores or excuses the shootings committed by government.
Everyone has their own categories I'm sure, but I'd put this one under genocide.
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jun 18, 2016 - 03:53pm PT
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Yes, of course it was genocide, but it was still a mass murder, and the prejudice displayed by that sick , government-licensed shooter in Orlando was not genocide, but it was certainly killing a class of people not because of race hatred but because of religious hatred. There is a long history of killing those whose minds or spirits or race we have been taught to hate. And there is no way for humans to justify any of it.
It is just sad, any way it is presented.
feralfae
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 18, 2016 - 03:58pm PT
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You are exactly right ff. However, the Civil War is by far the worst mass killing in U.S. history.
Roughly 2% of the population, around 620,000.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 18, 2016 - 05:26pm PT
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1) Note 'misinformed left' is not 'left' but a fraction of it.
2) Note 'radical Islam' is not 'Islam' but a fraction of it.
Covers a lot of ground, but doesn't say much. Pie in the sky?
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 18, 2016 - 05:34pm PT
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Fruitbottom picks Rachel Maddow a known MSM tool to brainwash the masses.
No wonder you're so screwed up brainwashed .....
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jun 18, 2016 - 06:07pm PT
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Because of mental illness...
Yes, Locker, I agree. It is mental illness. Prejudice is certainly mental illness when expressed as violence.
ff
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 18, 2016 - 06:21pm PT
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1) Note 'misinformed left' is not 'left' but a fraction of it.
2) Note 'radical Islam' is not 'Islam' but a fraction of it.
If we are blaming only a small part of the population, why are we blaming all of the guns?
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jun 18, 2016 - 08:05pm PT
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Oh, yes, I see. Yes, the mental illness was certainly a part of it. And yes, the murderer might have become violent with or without his religion, because he was unbalanced. Yes, mental illness is not confined to any specific demographics, nor is violence.
But I think we must also open our eyes to the fact that the violence and unrest we are seeing in Europe is also taking place here, on our own soil. This is from a friend in AZ, who sent this link to an interesting article about this: We are all we have, you are all you have I think we must recognize that there is an apparent and repeated correlation.
Well, on that part you weren't sure what it meant, let me see if I can find a better lexicon for us, then:
Most of us have prejudice of some sort against some people. Learned prejudices. Not the regular ones, like hating spinach or anyone who looks like your terrible third grade teacher, but prejudices we learn from our local culture. Hating for religious, racial, geographic, or political reasons is certainly ignorant, but not criminal.
When we express our prejudices through the initiation of violence, then we have become a criminal, and I guess I still classify most criminals as being mentally ill. I imagine many of them are, or they would not go around harming others. There is an well-known correlation between the use of some anti-depressants and escalating aggressive behavior. I think there is information about this correlation on the internet if you are interested. I wonder what medications the murderer might have been taking.
ff
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