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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 17, 2015 - 06:39am PT
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No.... "ISIS" is a marketing tool. Let's figure out who created/fund(s) it and deal with them instead.
Dropping tons of ordinance into populated areas does nothing productive.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Nov 17, 2015 - 06:43am PT
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Gangsters.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Nov 17, 2015 - 06:43am PT
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Ok, so everyone should just forget about Isis?
Yes. Otherwise, you are racist and Islamaphobic. A right wing Nazi.
Sing kumbaya, lower your flag, put an overlay on your facebook profile and leave it at that.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 17, 2015 - 07:30am PT
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The tough thing to accept is that elements in our own leadership have no qualms about killing civilians on either side and pinning it on that other guy over there to suit their agendas, which runs contrary to anything sane people want.
And of course your attitude will not change if and when they do their nasty deed here in the US. Multiple coordinated attacks. Hell, even God forbid, if a friend or family member of yours is one of their victims.
Right Fear?
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 17, 2015 - 07:35am PT
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No.... "ISIS" is a marketing tool.
Many Syrians, Iraqis , Kurds and Parisians would disagree.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 17, 2015 - 07:51am PT
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The tough thing to accept is that elements in our own leadership have no qualms about killing civilians on either side and pinning it on that other guy over there to suit their agendas, which runs contrary to anything sane people want.
And of course your attitude will not change if and when they do their nasty deed here in the US. Multiple coordinated attacks. Hell, even God forbid, if a friend or family member of yours is one of their victims.
Right Fear?
Sad thing is Chief, I have little doubt there will be an attack here blamed on the evil "ISIS" boogyman... I'd be surprised if there wasn't.
And no my attitude would not change about finding the real source of the problem. Even if that leads to certain rotten filth in our own benevolent government/MIC and/or supposed allies of ours.
As you know, I'm far from a pacifist, the important part is unraveling the BS to find out exactly who needs to go.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Nov 17, 2015 - 08:40am PT
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the important part is unraveling the BS...
"ISIS" is a marketing tool. Let's figure out who created-fund(s) it and deal with them... -fear
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Editor Of Iraqi Daily: The Arabs And Muslims Must Acknowledge Their Direct Responsibility For The Terror Sweeping The World
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8860.htm
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 17, 2015 - 12:16pm PT
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3322536/Germany-friendly-against-Holland-cancelled-security-threat.html
Germany friendly with Holland cancelled 90 minutes before kick-off after 'bomb truck disguised as ambulance' was discovered as police confirm device was to be detonated inside the ground
•Germany were due to take on Holland in an international friendly at the HDI Arena in Hanover tonight
•But the match was cancelled around 90 minutes before kick-off and the ground was evacuated
•A bomb truck disguised as an ambulance was found, according to reports in Germany
•Police confirmed there were 'concrete plans' to cause an explosion and that there was a threat to the city
•Police had earlier removed a suspicious suitcase from the ground and closed off roads leading into the area
•German Chancellor Angela Merkel had been expected to attend the match with members of her cabinet
•Germany had been playing France in Paris last Friday when terrorists launched a coordinated attack on the city
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 17, 2015 - 12:24pm PT
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Great.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Nov 17, 2015 - 12:49pm PT
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Let's figure out who created/fund(s) it and deal with them instead. Isn't it a common knowledge - who are they?
The problem here is that Turkey is NATO member country, and Qatar and Saudis are our closest allies and fund election campaigns here. How do you expect this to be handled? Bomb Doha or something? Yes, it will be convinient - the largest US base abroad is right there. Or elect non-corrupt politician may be? That will be interesting to watch, good luck.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Nov 17, 2015 - 01:04pm PT
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well, they had the borders wide open for months. There are undoubtedly tons of explosives, hundreds of fighters and weapons ready to go.
Really unecessary what they have done here. I'm guessing Europe goes sharply to the right and we know how that plays out.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 17, 2015 - 01:13pm PT
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Nov 17, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
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Nice to see we beat Egypt. 'Murica!
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MikeMc
Social climber
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Nov 17, 2015 - 01:39pm PT
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Find the birthplace of Wahhabism, and you find the birthplace of ISIL. Not that hard to figure out.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
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Nov 17, 2015 - 01:56pm PT
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Now France and the rest of NATO boys want to become involved in Syria to stop the USSR old skoolers .
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MikeMc
Social climber
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Nov 17, 2015 - 02:03pm PT
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^^^ Yup proxy war. Some things never change.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Nov 17, 2015 - 02:10pm PT
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Just read the complete article posted above by TGT; Chancellor Angela Merkel was scheduled to attend the game! Maybe this will bring the Germans to a higher state of national awareness w/r to Islamic "refugees?" Too many European politicos have been in denial over the seriousness of this massive INVASION of the modern western states.
The other comment posted above about a "swing to the right," is highly probable. Austria seems to have led the way, followed by Hungary. Not too surprising, as the Austro-Hungarian Empire was historically the barrier to the Muslim hordes in previous attempts at expansion into Europe.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 17, 2015 - 02:35pm PT
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The French can be some of the most savage people ever. Its all life, fun and enjoyment intill somebody pisses into the Brie...
France welcomed these Muslims into their homes (France)and just look at how they have been re-paid.
Britain too.
Ditto the Germans.
Time to dust off the Guillotine .... but keep the blade dull, that is the ISIS way.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 17, 2015 - 02:49pm PT
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Find the birthplace of Wahhabism, and you find the birthplace of ISIL. Not that hard to figure out.
Apparently it is for you....
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant history
Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (1999–2004): The Jordanian Salafi jihadist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and his militant group Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad, founded in 1999, achieved notoriety in the early stages of the Iraqi insurgency for the suicide attacks on Shia Islamic mosques, civilians, Iraqi government institutions and Italian soldiers partaking in the US-led 'Multi-National Force'. Al-Zarqawi's group officially pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network in October 2004 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
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