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k-man
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SCruz
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Jun 28, 2013 - 07:21pm PT
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Goatboy, I suppose you don't try civil disobedience much. Then you might care.
Or how about journalists keeping their sources secret?
These are a couple of the things we're losing here...
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jun 28, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
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I'm a civil disobedience machine, I barely slow down for stop signs.
Privacy is a myth and the solution for change is to be more vocal and give up all those fussy details.
Did MLK or Malcolm care they were under surveillance?
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MikeL
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SANTA CLARA, CA
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Jun 28, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
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Whewf! You gotta admire Rafael Correa's argument for its keen veracity! Wowzer, . . . kudos. (Good catch, Tom.)
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jun 28, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
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I'm a civil disobedience machine, I barely slow down for stop signs.
Wow, a real anarchist you are Goatboy!
But yes, I can see you love to break the law. But civil disobedience??
Perhaps you should look up the term, because breaking traffic laws is not part of that equation.
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In Other News
The NYT ran an Op-Ed today:
Link: The Criminal N.S.A.
Read the story to find out how they're breaking the law, and that our branches of Gov't are stretching thin the wording of the Patriot Act to tell us it's all legal.
Representative F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., a Wisconsin Republican and one of the architects of the Patriot Act, and a man not known as a civil libertarian, has said that “Congress intended to allow the intelligence communities to access targeted information for specific investigations.” The N.S.A.’s demand for information about every American’s phone calls isn’t “targeted” at all — it’s a dragnet. “How can every call that every American makes or receives be relevant to a specific investigation?” Mr. Sensenbrenner has asked. The answer is simple: It’s not.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jun 28, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
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^^^^ That's nothing more than a flimsy attempt by Sensenbrenner to cover his own ass.
Curt
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jun 28, 2013 - 07:58pm PT
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Oh snap I better slow down or K=man will report me to the Federalists.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Jun 28, 2013 - 08:34pm PT
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Unfortunately Rafael Correa is overseeing the real life version of the movie 'Avatar', against the native tribes on the eastern slopes of the Andes, the headwaters of the Amazon Basin in eastern Ecuador.
He doesn't care so much about American support as he has basically sold out his country to the Chinese and invited them in with heavy machinery and armed 'security personnel' for rich gold mining in territory belonging to some of the best guerrilla fighters on the planet
One of my old friends owns a big organic farming ranch near there on the western side.
These tribes are only still there because they successfully fought off the Spanish Conquistadors and all subsequent contenders until now.
The gold mining is contaminating much of the Amazon Basin, the 'lungs of the planet'. Mitigation attempts are useless as the water table in the area is so high that it is like a marsh on a mountainside with water running off everywhere.
The movie 'Avatar' was shown in Quito to an assemblage of the chiefs of that area, who sat there with feathered head dresses and 3D glasses, exclaiming that this is just what is now happening in their lands.
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beefcake of wide
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Nederland/GulfBreeze
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Jun 28, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
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What do we win when we call it out correctly?
A set of snake knifes?
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Jun 28, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
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Yeah, and all this week I have been heart broken listening to chain saws taking down big redwood trees in the forest below my house...trees supposedly preserved on land deeded from private individuals to the Boy Scouts...
but just why do we need Andean gold from pristine jungle?
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 28, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
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Nobody supports NSA Spying on Americans except Hedge.
Time to go to North Korea if you like being spied on.
You'll be much safer there.
Rodman was there, he thought it wasn't too bad :-)
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 28, 2013 - 11:55pm PT
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where your hero went
Nope, he's your hero Hedge.
You need and use him to make all your silly projections.
He's not mine.
Time for N Korea for you ......
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 29, 2013 - 12:08am PT
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You're already dead.
You've lost your brain thinking that.
Dead ......
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 29, 2013 - 12:10am PT
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Man .... ^^^^
You really are stupid ......
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 29, 2013 - 12:18am PT
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Hedge
You need wash your brain.
It's full of garbage.
Way too much.
But it'll never happen for you.
You can't let go.
You're totally sucked into the machine itself.
You are the machine ......
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 29, 2013 - 12:26am PT
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It's confirmed Hedge.
You can't think anymore.
You are the machine.
You've become the machines robotic extension .....
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 29, 2013 - 12:30am PT
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Tomorrow the machine will oil your brain with more machine news to keep you lubed and running so you don't overheat and rust.
You'll need it .....
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 29, 2013 - 12:36am PT
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rSin -- are you sure you know WTF you are squeezing out of that caulking gun of yours ....
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 29, 2013 - 12:40am PT
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I don't need to pray for anything.
You already made hell on earth a long time ago .......
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