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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jul 19, 2016 - 10:31pm PT
I find it hard to believe that Hillary , not Barack Obama , ordered our military to stand down and let Stevens and his staff perish at the ambassadors outpost in Benghazi...? Seriously...? Any of you trumpy's have inside information on Hillary's classified emails...? Please share if you have any detailed information on the nature of these emails...?
jonnyrig

climber
Jul 19, 2016 - 10:48pm PT
http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo
JC Marin

Trad climber
CA
Jul 19, 2016 - 10:50pm PT
Benghazi is a witch hunt--4 government employees killed in one of the most dangerous countries on the planet--sad, but it happens. How come no one talks about the 18 people killed in the US embassy in Yemen (2008) or the 63 people killed in the Beirut embassy in (1983--followed by 24 more killings in 1984)--oh yeah, the president in all of these instances was a republican. How about the 3000 people killed on 9/11 (yeah, republican)? There have been more congressional hearings about Benghazi than 9/11--WTF? Give me a f*#king break--Benghazi? What a load of horse $hit for the feeble minded.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jul 19, 2016 - 10:55pm PT
Pretty damning, johnnyrig, for a report that allegedly tells us nothing new, isn't it?

John
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jul 19, 2016 - 10:56pm PT
How come no one talks about the 18 people killed in the US embassy in Yemen (2008) or the 63 people killed in the Beirut embassy in (1983--followed by 24 more killings in 1984)--oh yeah, the president in all of these instances was a republican. How about the 3000 people killed on 9/11 (yeah, republican)?

Probably because our government didn't lie to our people about it.

john
JC Marin

Trad climber
CA
Jul 19, 2016 - 10:57pm PT
^^^^Like 9/11?? You actually believe what you are writing?

'Probably because our government didn't lie to our people about it'

I say it's more likely the republicans have nothing real to offer--so they regurgitate this nonsense over and over and over until week minded fools start to believe it
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jul 19, 2016 - 11:09pm PT
^^^^Like 9/11?? You actually believe what you are writing?

Let's see. Our government said that hijackers affiliated with Al Qaida hijacked four passenger jets, flew one into the Pentagon, one into one of the World Trade Center towers, and another into the other World Trade Center tower, and that passengers apparently overcame the hijackers of the fourth plane, causing it to crash in Pennsylvania. Yes, I believe that.

The government told us the attack on Benghazi was a spontaneous response to a You Tube video much of the Libyan populace found offensive. That was a lie.

So yes, I believe what I wrote.

John
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 19, 2016 - 11:10pm PT
"Probably because our government didn't lie to our people about it.

john"


No never John, so right.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Jul 19, 2016 - 11:11pm PT
Probably because our government didn't lie to our people about it.

The entire invasion of Iraq, leading to 4,000+ unnecessary American deaths was based on Republican lies. Give up on the bullshit already.

Curt
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jul 19, 2016 - 11:16pm PT
Benghazi will disappear as soon as Karl Rove deems it necessary and his submissive tools will chirp and quack in unison...
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 19, 2016 - 11:35pm PT
The government told us the attack on Benghazi was a spontaneous response to a You Tube video much of the Libyan populace found offensive. That was a lie.


When the event when down that is they thought. That narrative changed.


http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/


A lie is the 13 hours film, there was no stand down order.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jul 19, 2016 - 11:45pm PT
"Probably because our government didn't lie to our people about it."

Damn...walked right into that one, eh, John?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jul 19, 2016 - 11:57pm PT
Let's focus on Benghazi and forget the 3 thousand Americans who died in the WTC buildings when dunce boy Bush ignored FBI warnings about Al Quaeda hijacking airliners...
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 20, 2016 - 04:53am PT
The economy sucks except for where Republican delegates live:

CLEVELAND — Tuesday night’s Republican convention theme will be Make America Work Again, echoing Donald Trump’s apocalyptic rhetoric about the U.S. economy under President Barack Obama. “The president has been regulating to death a free-market economy he doesn’t like and doesn’t understand,” the GOP platform declares. The delegates here have varying degrees of enthusiasm for Trump, but they all seem to agree the Obama economy is a ghastly mess.

Except for the economy wherever they happen to live.

“Actually, we’re doing great,” says Donna Gottschall, a human resources consultant in Greenville, S.C. “Employment’s up. Housing’s up. Everything’s green in Greenville!”

“Oh, yeah, unemployment is way down,” says Al Baldasaro, a state legislator and retired Marine from Londonderry, N.H. “Obviously, it’s gotten better.”

“Things are wonderful in our town,” says Ranae Lentz, a Republican county chair from Bellefontaine, Ohio. “We can’t fill all the job openings.”

Just as most Americans say they hate Congress but routinely vote for their local congressmen, most Republicans seem to detect a national economic malaise while — with some exceptions in places like coal country and the oil patch — touting the economic progress in their local communities. They square that circle in a variety of ways — crediting their Republican mayors and governors, accusing Obama of manipulating data, or citing legitimate weaknesses in the recovery from the Great Recession. But with unemployment down from 10 percent to less than 5 percent since late 2009, one of Trump’s many challenges will be convincing non-Republicans that America isn’t working even though nearly 15 million more Americans are.

Trump illustrated this problem last week when he introduced his running mate, Indiana Governor Mike Pence. He said the “primary reason” for his choice was that Indiana’s unemployment had dropped by 3.4 percentage points in four years under Pence, and that its labor force had grown, which he said was “very unusual” for a U.S. state.

“It’s always bad, down, down, down,” Trump said. “Down 40 percent, 50 percent, 60 percent in some cases.” In fact, the drop in Indiana’s unemployment almost perfectly mirrors the national trend. And the labor force has grown in all but nine states with the worst drop only 3 percentage points in oil-dependent North Dakota. In February 2009, Obama highlighted the free-falling economy he inherited by visiting Elkhart, Indiana, where unemployment was nearly 20 percent; he recently returned to Elkhart to highlight America’s recovery, and unemployment was 4 percent.

Still, in interviews in Cleveland, Republican delegates repeatedly described economic gains that seem ordinary in national context as hometown anomalies. Jeanita McNulty, a liaison for foreign exchange students in Blue Grass, Iowa, attributed the strong local labor market to a Republican governor and small-town values. “Iowans work hard,” she said. “There’s a lot of real pride in the Midwest.”
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jul 20, 2016 - 05:46am PT
Et tu? Why not just say you're not going to bother to vote?

He's going to vote for what he wants, not what he doesn't want. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

I'm trying to decide between Gloria La Riva and Jill Stein.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jul 20, 2016 - 06:06am PT



HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 20, 2016 - 06:09am PT
Ed posted
"Facts"

Truthiness! Still the other red meat.
dirtbag

climber
Jul 20, 2016 - 06:12am PT
Not that I had any hope of bipartisan cooperation should Hillary win, but delegate chants of "lock her up" don't bode well. I expect congress to continue catering to the crazies.

Like so many GOP positions this one was fringe not so long ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/19/how-the-gop-stumbled-into-calling-for-hillary-clintons-imprisonment/


Isn't calling for the jailing of political opponents how dictatorships typically role?

Meanwhile, the coronation of the bigot continues.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 20, 2016 - 06:13am PT
http://www.theonion.com/article/trembling-pallid-rnc-attendees-undergo-second-day--53248


dirtbag posted
Isn't calling for the jailing of political opponents how dictatorships typically role?

The chanting is a bit mobish but let's be honest, people have been calling for the incarceration of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others since 2004. Making it the general these of your convention is definitely next level but we're talking about a group of people that trivialized Purple Heart winners when it served their purpose.



Here's some Pro Spin for you: Donald Trump's spokeswoman says Melania Trump "wanted to communicate to Americans in phrases they have heard before"

dirtbag

climber
Jul 20, 2016 - 06:17am PT
I haven't looked it up, but I'd wager this is the first convention where a featured speaker and former candidate linked the nominee from the opposing party to Satan.

You can always count on Carson for crazy, bless him.
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